<?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?><rss version="2.0"
	xmlns:content="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/content/"
	xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/"
	xmlns:atom="http://www.w3.org/2005/Atom"
	xmlns:sy="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/syndication/"
		>
<channel>
	<title>Comments on: Campus &#8216;revolutionaries&#8217; against Zionism</title>
	<atom:link href="http://hurryupharry.org/2009/03/27/campus-revolutionaries-against-zionism/feed/" rel="self" type="application/rss+xml" />
	<link>http://hurryupharry.org/2009/03/27/campus-revolutionaries-against-zionism/</link>
	<description>Liberty, if it means anything, is the right to tell people what they don&#039;t want to hear</description>
	<lastBuildDate>Fri, 10 Feb 2012 02:06:23 +0000</lastBuildDate>
	<generator>http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2</generator>
	<sy:updatePeriod>hourly</sy:updatePeriod>
	<sy:updateFrequency>1</sy:updateFrequency>
		<item>
		<title>By: U.S. Marine</title>
		<link>http://hurryupharry.org/2009/03/27/campus-revolutionaries-against-zionism/comment-page-3/#comment-328768</link>
		<dc:creator>U.S. Marine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Apr 2009 18:03:17 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.hurryupharry.org/?p=14455#comment-328768</guid>
		<description>The forward-thinking Utopian view of a one state solution to the conflict between Palestinians and Israelis brings to mind the good relations of other such multi-ethnic nations such as Lebanon, Northern Ireland, Iraq, and old Yugoslavia and Sri Lanka. How well their citizens get along.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The forward-thinking Utopian view of a one state solution to the conflict between Palestinians and Israelis brings to mind the good relations of other such multi-ethnic nations such as Lebanon, Northern Ireland, Iraq, and old Yugoslavia and Sri Lanka. How well their citizens get along.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Lbnaz</title>
		<link>http://hurryupharry.org/2009/03/27/campus-revolutionaries-against-zionism/comment-page-3/#comment-323110</link>
		<dc:creator>Lbnaz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Mar 2009 00:10:37 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.hurryupharry.org/?p=14455#comment-323110</guid>
		<description>&lt;i&gt;Those Palestinians who helped the Yishuv by providing labor — were they allowed to join the Histadrut? I’m almost sure they were, because the Zionists wanted to live in harmony with the native Arab population, and incorporating those who helped the Zionist cause into the trade union federation was the right thing to do. But can someone confirm this?&lt;/i&gt;

Yes Alberto, I can help to confirm despite your sneering and dripping with cynicism comment.

The Palestine Labor League was the Arab affiliate of the Histadrut (the Zionist Labor federation) in Mandate Palestine. [c.f. Cohen, Hillel &quot;Army of Shadows&quot; University of California Press, 2008, p. 38]

Then there&#039;s the following excerpt from Jane Power&#039;s master thesis on Arab Unionization in Mandate Palestine in which she cites: Zachary Lockman, &quot;Railway Workers and Relational History: Arabs and Jews in British-Ruled Palestine,&quot; Comparative Studies in Society and History, 35, No. 3 (July 1993), 
p. 608:
 
&lt;blockquote&gt;The Histadrut chose two means of cultivating relation- 
ships with Arab workers. In July 1925, soon after the Arab 
railroad workers left the Histadrut railroad union and 
formed PAWS, the Histadrut opened a &quot;General Workers Club 
for Arab workers in Haifa. Offering literacy classes, sports, and cooperatives, the club by the late 1920s enrolled about a hundred members. In 1927, meanwhile, the Histadrut assigned an organizer to begin forming the Arab segment of the proposed binational federation, christening the new 
organization the Palestine Labor League. Retarded by the depression and interrupted by the 1929 riots, the PLL began organizing unions only in 1931. It opened its one branch of the 1930s in Jaffa in 1934.&lt;/blockquote&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Those Palestinians who helped the Yishuv by providing labor — were they allowed to join the Histadrut? I’m almost sure they were, because the Zionists wanted to live in harmony with the native Arab population, and incorporating those who helped the Zionist cause into the trade union federation was the right thing to do. But can someone confirm this?</i></p>
<p>Yes Alberto, I can help to confirm despite your sneering and dripping with cynicism comment.</p>
<p>The Palestine Labor League was the Arab affiliate of the Histadrut (the Zionist Labor federation) in Mandate Palestine. [c.f. Cohen, Hillel "Army of Shadows" University of California Press, 2008, p. 38]</p>
<p>Then there&#8217;s the following excerpt from Jane Power&#8217;s master thesis on Arab Unionization in Mandate Palestine in which she cites: Zachary Lockman, &#8220;Railway Workers and Relational History: Arabs and Jews in British-Ruled Palestine,&#8221; Comparative Studies in Society and History, 35, No. 3 (July 1993),<br />
p. 608:</p>
<blockquote><p>The Histadrut chose two means of cultivating relation-<br />
ships with Arab workers. In July 1925, soon after the Arab<br />
railroad workers left the Histadrut railroad union and<br />
formed PAWS, the Histadrut opened a &#8220;General Workers Club<br />
for Arab workers in Haifa. Offering literacy classes, sports, and cooperatives, the club by the late 1920s enrolled about a hundred members. In 1927, meanwhile, the Histadrut assigned an organizer to begin forming the Arab segment of the proposed binational federation, christening the new<br />
organization the Palestine Labor League. Retarded by the depression and interrupted by the 1929 riots, the PLL began organizing unions only in 1931. It opened its one branch of the 1930s in Jaffa in 1934.</p></blockquote>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: zkharya</title>
		<link>http://hurryupharry.org/2009/03/27/campus-revolutionaries-against-zionism/comment-page-3/#comment-323102</link>
		<dc:creator>zkharya</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Mar 2009 23:21:58 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.hurryupharry.org/?p=14455#comment-323102</guid>
		<description>Note Johng&#039;s sad little equation of the gestalt entity of &quot;HP&quot; with the formulation of foreign policy. He really is a wannable super hero in search of a super villain.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Note Johng&#8217;s sad little equation of the gestalt entity of &#8220;HP&#8221; with the formulation of foreign policy. He really is a wannable super hero in search of a super villain.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: zkharya</title>
		<link>http://hurryupharry.org/2009/03/27/campus-revolutionaries-against-zionism/comment-page-3/#comment-323100</link>
		<dc:creator>zkharya</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Mar 2009 23:15:48 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.hurryupharry.org/?p=14455#comment-323100</guid>
		<description>KBPlayer: “In the absence of such firsthand knowledge and experience: silence”

Johng: &#039;An interesting principle for liberal internationalists. It would certainly effectively end HP as a blog. After all we might have avoided a number of wars if this principle had been observed.&#039;

Surely ditto re. Seymour&#039;s Place?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>KBPlayer: “In the absence of such firsthand knowledge and experience: silence”</p>
<p>Johng: &#8216;An interesting principle for liberal internationalists. It would certainly effectively end HP as a blog. After all we might have avoided a number of wars if this principle had been observed.&#8217;</p>
<p>Surely ditto re. Seymour&#8217;s Place?</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Simean</title>
		<link>http://hurryupharry.org/2009/03/27/campus-revolutionaries-against-zionism/comment-page-3/#comment-323096</link>
		<dc:creator>Simean</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Mar 2009 22:38:05 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.hurryupharry.org/?p=14455#comment-323096</guid>
		<description>Slightly off topic, but also largely not, you may be interested to know that a leading member of the group who brought you this &quot;sticking it to the man&quot; exercise of &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6uysPbQRpyA&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;rebranding Starbucks as &quot;zionist coffee&quot;&lt;/a&gt; 

as well as this &quot;anti zionist&quot; protest in Marks and Sparks of &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jj1NmUuhHM4&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;&quot;From the river to the sea, Palestine will be free!&quot;&lt;/a&gt; 

was last night &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/top-stories/2009/03/27/republican-on-soldiers-murder-rap-115875-21231075/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;charged with the murders of Sappers Patrick Asimkar and Mark Quinsey in Antrim.&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Slightly off topic, but also largely not, you may be interested to know that a leading member of the group who brought you this &#8220;sticking it to the man&#8221; exercise of <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6uysPbQRpyA" rel="nofollow">rebranding Starbucks as &#8220;zionist coffee&#8221;</a> </p>
<p>as well as this &#8220;anti zionist&#8221; protest in Marks and Sparks of <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jj1NmUuhHM4" rel="nofollow">&#8220;From the river to the sea, Palestine will be free!&#8221;</a> </p>
<p>was last night <a href="http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/top-stories/2009/03/27/republican-on-soldiers-murder-rap-115875-21231075/" rel="nofollow">charged with the murders of Sappers Patrick Asimkar and Mark Quinsey in Antrim.</a></p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Ohad</title>
		<link>http://hurryupharry.org/2009/03/27/campus-revolutionaries-against-zionism/comment-page-3/#comment-323062</link>
		<dc:creator>Ohad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Mar 2009 19:48:37 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.hurryupharry.org/?p=14455#comment-323062</guid>
		<description>But some will go to work in the MSM and NGOs.  Most of the people in the MSM and NGOs are these types.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>But some will go to work in the MSM and NGOs.  Most of the people in the MSM and NGOs are these types.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: hasan prishtina</title>
		<link>http://hurryupharry.org/2009/03/27/campus-revolutionaries-against-zionism/comment-page-2/#comment-323058</link>
		<dc:creator>hasan prishtina</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Mar 2009 19:29:01 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.hurryupharry.org/?p=14455#comment-323058</guid>
		<description>&lt;i&gt;The American civil rights movement, for decades, roused the passions of tens of millions of people who had never set foot in America.&lt;/i&gt;

Civil rights in the USA, and the rights of Native Americans, was of particular interest to people in France and there is a vast literature that testifies to that. Curiously, until recently there appears to have been virtually no French interest in minorities in France (including the DOM-TOM). I wonder which other countries could be described as behaving like that?

&lt;i&gt;There is a mainstream anti-Zionism, and NEVER, EVER will you hear them condoning suicide bombings. It’s the anti-Zionism of Abunimah, Weiss, Rashidi, Klug, Karon, Said.&lt;/i&gt;

Indeed. Tony Karon makes the obligatory noises but obliviates that by saying &quot; is Israel really any more likely to adhere to international law by withdrawing to its 1967 borders if the Palestinians were using non-violent methods of resistance? Becuase that really is the issue — the occupation, not the methods used to resist it.&quot; Said said they were &quot;reprehensible&quot; and then went on to &lt;a href=&#039;http://www.counterpunch.org/said0813.html&#039; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;justify&lt;/a&gt; them. Interesting to see Klug cited as mainstream; it shows how much effort is put in to providing Jewish fig-leaves against charges of anti-semitism.

There don&#039;t seem to be that many anti-Zionists, Qaradawi, Mahathir Mohamed, Shuman, Ahmedinejad, all our friends at Hamas etc. who don&#039;t live in the US or Western countries where incitement to terrorism is an offence who don&#039;t support it. Not forgetting their friends including a Gorgeous, &lt;a href=&#039;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IYFGIbaabTU&#039; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;generous&lt;/a&gt; politician who thinks it&#039;s &quot;morally justified&quot; to use a suicide bomb to murder people. Maybe they aren&#039;t mainstream.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>The American civil rights movement, for decades, roused the passions of tens of millions of people who had never set foot in America.</i></p>
<p>Civil rights in the USA, and the rights of Native Americans, was of particular interest to people in France and there is a vast literature that testifies to that. Curiously, until recently there appears to have been virtually no French interest in minorities in France (including the DOM-TOM). I wonder which other countries could be described as behaving like that?</p>
<p><i>There is a mainstream anti-Zionism, and NEVER, EVER will you hear them condoning suicide bombings. It’s the anti-Zionism of Abunimah, Weiss, Rashidi, Klug, Karon, Said.</i></p>
<p>Indeed. Tony Karon makes the obligatory noises but obliviates that by saying &#8221; is Israel really any more likely to adhere to international law by withdrawing to its 1967 borders if the Palestinians were using non-violent methods of resistance? Becuase that really is the issue — the occupation, not the methods used to resist it.&#8221; Said said they were &#8220;reprehensible&#8221; and then went on to <a href='http://www.counterpunch.org/said0813.html' rel="nofollow">justify</a> them. Interesting to see Klug cited as mainstream; it shows how much effort is put in to providing Jewish fig-leaves against charges of anti-semitism.</p>
<p>There don&#8217;t seem to be that many anti-Zionists, Qaradawi, Mahathir Mohamed, Shuman, Ahmedinejad, all our friends at Hamas etc. who don&#8217;t live in the US or Western countries where incitement to terrorism is an offence who don&#8217;t support it. Not forgetting their friends including a Gorgeous, <a href='http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IYFGIbaabTU' rel="nofollow">generous</a> politician who thinks it&#8217;s &#8220;morally justified&#8221; to use a suicide bomb to murder people. Maybe they aren&#8217;t mainstream.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Josh Scholar</title>
		<link>http://hurryupharry.org/2009/03/27/campus-revolutionaries-against-zionism/comment-page-2/#comment-323052</link>
		<dc:creator>Josh Scholar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Mar 2009 18:48:05 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.hurryupharry.org/?p=14455#comment-323052</guid>
		<description>Gene, people in the middle east really do feel the way BL@KBIRD said they feel... Exactly how does recognizing the actual dynamic make him, and not you, a fool?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gene, people in the middle east really do feel the way BL@KBIRD said they feel&#8230; Exactly how does recognizing the actual dynamic make him, and not you, a fool?</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: John Edwards</title>
		<link>http://hurryupharry.org/2009/03/27/campus-revolutionaries-against-zionism/comment-page-2/#comment-323025</link>
		<dc:creator>John Edwards</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Mar 2009 15:48:24 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.hurryupharry.org/?p=14455#comment-323025</guid>
		<description>Reading about this character and his links to Richard Pipes&#039;s &quot;Middle East Forum&quot; - &quot;working for Palestinian acceptance of Israel&quot; (but not apparently the other way round) the term Quisling inevitably comes to mind.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Reading about this character and his links to Richard Pipes&#8217;s &#8220;Middle East Forum&#8221; &#8211; &#8220;working for Palestinian acceptance of Israel&#8221; (but not apparently the other way round) the term Quisling inevitably comes to mind.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: The Hasbara Buster</title>
		<link>http://hurryupharry.org/2009/03/27/campus-revolutionaries-against-zionism/comment-page-2/#comment-323007</link>
		<dc:creator>The Hasbara Buster</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Mar 2009 14:10:35 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.hurryupharry.org/?p=14455#comment-323007</guid>
		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;In ‘Army of Shadows’, Cohen demonstrates the many roles that accommodating Palestinians played for the Yishuv, the pre-state Jewish community in the Holy Land. They provided labor (...)&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Oh, I see... but I have a little question.

Those Palestinians who helped the Yishuv by providing labor -- were they allowed to join the Histadrut? I&#039;m almost sure they were, because the Zionists wanted to live in harmony with the native Arab population, and incorporating those who helped the Zionist cause into the trade union federation was the right thing to do. But can someone confirm this?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>In ‘Army of Shadows’, Cohen demonstrates the many roles that accommodating Palestinians played for the Yishuv, the pre-state Jewish community in the Holy Land. They provided labor (&#8230;)</p></blockquote>
<p>Oh, I see&#8230; but I have a little question.</p>
<p>Those Palestinians who helped the Yishuv by providing labor &#8212; were they allowed to join the Histadrut? I&#8217;m almost sure they were, because the Zionists wanted to live in harmony with the native Arab population, and incorporating those who helped the Zionist cause into the trade union federation was the right thing to do. But can someone confirm this?</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
</channel>
</rss>

