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	<title>Comments on: Everybody be Cool: Notes on a Counter-Protest</title>
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	<description>Liberty, if it means anything, is the right to tell people what they don&#039;t want to hear</description>
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		<title>By: benw</title>
		<link>http://hurryupharry.org/2009/03/24/everybody-be-cool-notes-on-a-counter-protest/comment-page-1/#comment-322507</link>
		<dc:creator>benw</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Mar 2009 01:56:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jonathan, I just read the &quot;Alternative Palestinian Agenda&quot; and it looks like a rehash of the 1947 UN proposal -- including a Palestinian state that goes well beyond the 1967 borders.  At this point in time this is pure fantasy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jonathan, I just read the &#8220;Alternative Palestinian Agenda&#8221; and it looks like a rehash of the 1947 UN proposal &#8212; including a Palestinian state that goes well beyond the 1967 borders.  At this point in time this is pure fantasy.</p>
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		<title>By: Jonathan Edelstein</title>
		<link>http://hurryupharry.org/2009/03/24/everybody-be-cool-notes-on-a-counter-protest/comment-page-1/#comment-321949</link>
		<dc:creator>Jonathan Edelstein</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Mar 2009 17:52:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks Alex and David.  Unfortunately, THH isn&#039;t coming back: the law is a jealous mistress, and I barely have time for reading about international affairs these days, much less writing.

The Northern Ireland peace - which is, after all, a single-state solution - isn&#039;t likely to work in Israel/Palestine.  I&#039;d look for something more like the Annan plan for Cyprus or maybe like the &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.ap-agenda.org/initiative.htm&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Alternative Palestinian Agenda&lt;/a&gt;: two autonomous states with the right to define their own citizenship, a very limited right of return, a binational overlay to aid in dispute resolution, and  membership in the EU or an equivalent regional organization to make sure everyone behaves.  The only thing I&#039;d really add to the Annan formula is that each state should keep its own army, Bosnia-style, for the time being.  There isn&#039;t enough trust to make it work otherwise.

It&#039;s the &lt;i&gt;idea&lt;/i&gt; of peace between peoples with historic hatreds that, I hope, although more despairingly every year, could be imported from Northern Ireland.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Alex and David.  Unfortunately, THH isn&#8217;t coming back: the law is a jealous mistress, and I barely have time for reading about international affairs these days, much less writing.</p>
<p>The Northern Ireland peace &#8211; which is, after all, a single-state solution &#8211; isn&#8217;t likely to work in Israel/Palestine.  I&#8217;d look for something more like the Annan plan for Cyprus or maybe like the <a href="http://www.ap-agenda.org/initiative.htm" rel="nofollow">Alternative Palestinian Agenda</a>: two autonomous states with the right to define their own citizenship, a very limited right of return, a binational overlay to aid in dispute resolution, and  membership in the EU or an equivalent regional organization to make sure everyone behaves.  The only thing I&#8217;d really add to the Annan formula is that each state should keep its own army, Bosnia-style, for the time being.  There isn&#8217;t enough trust to make it work otherwise.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s the <i>idea</i> of peace between peoples with historic hatreds that, I hope, although more despairingly every year, could be imported from Northern Ireland.</p>
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		<title>By: Philo-Semite</title>
		<link>http://hurryupharry.org/2009/03/24/everybody-be-cool-notes-on-a-counter-protest/comment-page-1/#comment-321844</link>
		<dc:creator>Philo-Semite</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Mar 2009 14:34:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;Thank you…a toponym is a word class signifying a geographical area by the way.&lt;/i&gt;

Oh. I thought it referred to Topo Gigio. ;-}</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Thank you…a toponym is a word class signifying a geographical area by the way.</i></p>
<p>Oh. I thought it referred to Topo Gigio. ;-}</p>
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		<title>By: Philo-Semite</title>
		<link>http://hurryupharry.org/2009/03/24/everybody-be-cool-notes-on-a-counter-protest/comment-page-1/#comment-321777</link>
		<dc:creator>Philo-Semite</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Mar 2009 11:45:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is the first poor article I&#039;ve seen on Harry&#039;s, throwing about &quot;fascist&quot; as a substitute for analysis.

Will Harry&#039;s invite Marzel to post an article in response?

Or, like the &lt;i&gt;Guardian&lt;/i&gt;, does it believe only the left to have the right to (politically-correct) comment?

[N.B. I holdno brief for Marzel but find this article too one-sided and &lt;i&gt;Guardian&lt;/i&gt;-like.]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is the first poor article I&#8217;ve seen on Harry&#8217;s, throwing about &#8220;fascist&#8221; as a substitute for analysis.</p>
<p>Will Harry&#8217;s invite Marzel to post an article in response?</p>
<p>Or, like the <i>Guardian</i>, does it believe only the left to have the right to (politically-correct) comment?</p>
<p>[N.B. I holdno brief for Marzel but find this article too one-sided and <i>Guardian</i>-like.]</p>
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		<title>By: Fabian from Israel</title>
		<link>http://hurryupharry.org/2009/03/24/everybody-be-cool-notes-on-a-counter-protest/comment-page-1/#comment-321712</link>
		<dc:creator>Fabian from Israel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Mar 2009 06:19:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Alex: No, it is not. Both are fascist ideas.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Alex: No, it is not. Both are fascist ideas.</p>
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		<title>By: Alex Stein</title>
		<link>http://hurryupharry.org/2009/03/24/everybody-be-cool-notes-on-a-counter-protest/comment-page-1/#comment-321708</link>
		<dc:creator>Alex Stein</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Mar 2009 05:51:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Arj - because he supports transferring non-Jewish citizens of the state elsewhere. Fabian from Israel - I think it&#039;s a bit more complicated than equating the two.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Arj &#8211; because he supports transferring non-Jewish citizens of the state elsewhere. Fabian from Israel &#8211; I think it&#8217;s a bit more complicated than equating the two.</p>
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		<title>By: Fabian from Israel</title>
		<link>http://hurryupharry.org/2009/03/24/everybody-be-cool-notes-on-a-counter-protest/comment-page-1/#comment-321554</link>
		<dc:creator>Fabian from Israel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Mar 2009 19:12:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good article. I hate Marzel.

Just a question, Alex: were you at the counterprotest in Jaffa last year when 1000 Arabs from all over the country marched through the city chanting: &quot;We&#039;ll redeem you, Jaffa, with spirit and blood&quot; and holding Palestinian flags? Don&#039;t you think that was similar to this?
http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/969634.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good article. I hate Marzel.</p>
<p>Just a question, Alex: were you at the counterprotest in Jaffa last year when 1000 Arabs from all over the country marched through the city chanting: &#8220;We&#8217;ll redeem you, Jaffa, with spirit and blood&#8221; and holding Palestinian flags? Don&#8217;t you think that was similar to this?<br />
<a href="http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/969634.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/969634.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: David All</title>
		<link>http://hurryupharry.org/2009/03/24/everybody-be-cool-notes-on-a-counter-protest/comment-page-1/#comment-321552</link>
		<dc:creator>David All</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Mar 2009 19:08:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jonathan, great to hear from you! have missed you and your blog. How are you and your family doing?  Will the Head Heeb soon becoming active again? Would really look forward to that.

About Northern Ireland peace agreement being a model for Israeli-Palestinian peace. It is possible, as long as Israel &amp; Palestine do not end up being ruled by political &amp; religious extremists as happen to the Protestant and Catholic communities in Northern Ireland. That would not make a stable ground for lasting peace in Israel &amp; Palestine even less likely than the current situation in Ulster is.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jonathan, great to hear from you! have missed you and your blog. How are you and your family doing?  Will the Head Heeb soon becoming active again? Would really look forward to that.</p>
<p>About Northern Ireland peace agreement being a model for Israeli-Palestinian peace. It is possible, as long as Israel &amp; Palestine do not end up being ruled by political &amp; religious extremists as happen to the Protestant and Catholic communities in Northern Ireland. That would not make a stable ground for lasting peace in Israel &amp; Palestine even less likely than the current situation in Ulster is.</p>
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		<title>By: Arj</title>
		<link>http://hurryupharry.org/2009/03/24/everybody-be-cool-notes-on-a-counter-protest/comment-page-1/#comment-321549</link>
		<dc:creator>Arj</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Mar 2009 18:54:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good article.
But why do you label Marzel a fascist?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good article.<br />
But why do you label Marzel a fascist?</p>
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		<title>By: Alex Stein</title>
		<link>http://hurryupharry.org/2009/03/24/everybody-be-cool-notes-on-a-counter-protest/comment-page-1/#comment-321497</link>
		<dc:creator>Alex Stein</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Mar 2009 16:49:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jonathan - good to see you on here!
A</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jonathan &#8211; good to see you on here!<br />
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