Here’s another Atzmon interview, in the Gisborne Herald, a daily newspaper in New Zealand.
The piece is worth reading in full, so you can see quite how mainstream Atzmonism has become. There’s no critical engagement with what Atzmon says – just supportive reporting.
Some choice passages:
“I think we are under severe danger. We are fighting against the most powerful people on this planet.”
“Mossad (the Israeli secret service) probably realise that shooting a saxophonist would not reflect well on them. I don’t feel suicidal and if you hear I fell off a cliff you know who did it.”
There have been numerous attempts to silence Mr Atzmon, including inevitable charges that he is anti-Semitic, although he is Jewish himself.
“They try to call me an anti-Semite, I’m not an anti-Semite. I’ve got nothing against the Semite people, I don’t have anything against people – I’m anti-Jewish, not anti-Jews.
“I think Jewish ideology is driving our planet into a catastrophe and we must stop.”
“One of the things that happened to us was that stupidly we interpreted the Nazi defeat as a vindication of the Jewish ideology and the Jewish people.
“The Nazis were indeed . . . evil. They did things that were disastrously inhuman and unacceptable. But this doesn’t mean the Jewish ideology is correct, because in fact Jewish ideology and Nazi ideology were very similar.”
“It is perplexing – you would expect that after what the Jewish people had gone through, after it was very clear to them that the European nations, not just the Germans, but the French, the Ukrainians the Romanians and the Poles spat them out, you would expect they would start a new page where they would be very reflective and very, very careful.
“When you try to think of the biggest humanists ever, Spinoza Marx and Christ were basically proud self-hating Jews also.”
“You know, I am not exactly the Messiah, but I must admit that when I started to read about Christ, you know, it was the story of my life – about a person who is indoctrinated into hatred and finds a way to start to love.”
“Many people ask me about peace and I say you cannot have peace with people who do not internalise the concept of ‘love thy neighbour’. This is almost a paradox, because if they love their neighbour, they cease to be who they are.
“What is the difference between Jews and Christians theoretically? Christians are basically Jews who love their neighbour, so they are committed to the universal concept of humanity, whereas Judaism is tribalism.”
“The rockets are almost a peaceful message to the Israelis telling them: ‘In case you don’t realise it yet, you are living on my stolen land’.
“[Obama] wants to amend the damage caused by those Jewish political strategies such as Neoconservatism, such as the sub-prime mortgage crisis that was led by Alan Greenspan, who is not exactly a Rasta.”
The financial meltdown is all just part of the programme, he says.
“I don’t think it was a credit crunch, I think it was a Zionist punch.
“This war in Iraq may have something to do with energy but largely it was America acting as an Israeli mission for fighting the last pockets of resistance, led tactically by Neoconservatives and the Federal Reserve.
“Alan Greenspan’s job was to create a financial boom so America’s people were not concerned with the tactics used in the Middle East.
“It should have worked but it didn’t work because the all-American boom was done at the expense of the most deprived Americans, and they just couldn’t pay the mortgages so it all collapsed.
“It’s not only Jews that have adopted this world view either. Bush behaved Jewishly (ideologically) – he is a supremacist, he was a tribalist, but he is not a Jew as far as I’m aware.
And so on.