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	<description>Liberty, if it means anything, is the right to tell people what they don&#039;t want to hear</description>
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		<title>By: sally  Lloyd</title>
		<link>http://hurryupharry.org/2009/03/07/a-nose-job/comment-page-3/#comment-317058</link>
		<dc:creator>sally  Lloyd</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Mar 2009 14:19:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I watched the advert and all it was doing was trying to get money to help people that had been bombed and had been hurt by the conflict. I do not remeber it trying to put any blame on anyone. In fact I don&#039;&#039;t even remember there being any mention of Isreal at all. 

So please tell me how this is lies? As far as I am concerned it was a humanitarian appeal and nothing more.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I watched the advert and all it was doing was trying to get money to help people that had been bombed and had been hurt by the conflict. I do not remeber it trying to put any blame on anyone. In fact I don&#8221;t even remember there being any mention of Isreal at all. </p>
<p>So please tell me how this is lies? As far as I am concerned it was a humanitarian appeal and nothing more.</p>
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		<title>By: sally  Lloyd</title>
		<link>http://hurryupharry.org/2009/03/07/a-nose-job/comment-page-3/#comment-317057</link>
		<dc:creator>sally  Lloyd</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Mar 2009 14:19:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I watched the advert and all it was doing was trying to get money to help people that had been bombed and had been hurt by the conflict. I do not remeber it trying to put any blame on anyone. In fact I don&#039;&#039;t even remember there being any mention of Isreal at all. 

So please tell me how this is lies? As far as I am concerned it was a humanitarian appeal and nothing more.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I watched the advert and all it was doing was trying to get money to help people that had been bombed and had been hurt by the conflict. I do not remeber it trying to put any blame on anyone. In fact I don&#8221;t even remember there being any mention of Isreal at all. </p>
<p>So please tell me how this is lies? As far as I am concerned it was a humanitarian appeal and nothing more.</p>
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		<title>By: shaneadams</title>
		<link>http://hurryupharry.org/2009/03/07/a-nose-job/comment-page-3/#comment-316765</link>
		<dc:creator>shaneadams</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Mar 2009 21:13:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I hope you die, you cunt.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I hope you die, you cunt.</p>
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		<title>By: Voltaire's Priest</title>
		<link>http://hurryupharry.org/2009/03/07/a-nose-job/comment-page-3/#comment-315196</link>
		<dc:creator>Voltaire's Priest</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Mar 2009 01:18:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nearly Oxfordian:

Q: Or do you consider Hamas to be uniquely evil in this respect?

A: Yes.

&lt;i&gt;Uniquely&lt;/i&gt;? Are you even remotely serious?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nearly Oxfordian:</p>
<p>Q: Or do you consider Hamas to be uniquely evil in this respect?</p>
<p>A: Yes.</p>
<p><i>Uniquely</i>? Are you even remotely serious?</p>
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		<title>By: Nearly Oxfordian</title>
		<link>http://hurryupharry.org/2009/03/07/a-nose-job/comment-page-3/#comment-314827</link>
		<dc:creator>Nearly Oxfordian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Mar 2009 11:57:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;So I presume you must therefore oppose humanitarian aid to any people, anywhere, if the government overseeing the territory where they exist is one you consider dodgy, corrupt or authoritarian?&lt;/i&gt;

You really have a way with weasel-words, don&#039;t you? Not a divorce lawyer by any chance, are you?
I do not &#039;consider&#039; Hamas dodgy, corrupt or authoritarian: it is documented as being corrupt and authoritarian and murderous - and of stealing aid.

&lt;i&gt;In that case is it that you spend an awful lot of time giving aid to development projects on the Isle of Wight, or else that you simply don’t agree with humanitarian aid?&lt;/i&gt;

When have you stopped beating your wife?

&lt;i&gt;Or do you consider Hamas to be uniquely evil in this respect?&lt;/i&gt;

Yes.

&lt;i&gt;Opposing Comic Relief… is your name Mr Scrooge by any chance?&lt;/i&gt;

Flimflam, mendacity, appeal to authority and emotion, and propaganda. I don&#039;t &#039;oppose comic relief&#039;. I object to my donations ending in the pockets of a Nazi organisation or those that root for it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>So I presume you must therefore oppose humanitarian aid to any people, anywhere, if the government overseeing the territory where they exist is one you consider dodgy, corrupt or authoritarian?</i></p>
<p>You really have a way with weasel-words, don&#8217;t you? Not a divorce lawyer by any chance, are you?<br />
I do not &#8216;consider&#8217; Hamas dodgy, corrupt or authoritarian: it is documented as being corrupt and authoritarian and murderous &#8211; and of stealing aid.</p>
<p><i>In that case is it that you spend an awful lot of time giving aid to development projects on the Isle of Wight, or else that you simply don’t agree with humanitarian aid?</i></p>
<p>When have you stopped beating your wife?</p>
<p><i>Or do you consider Hamas to be uniquely evil in this respect?</i></p>
<p>Yes.</p>
<p><i>Opposing Comic Relief… is your name Mr Scrooge by any chance?</i></p>
<p>Flimflam, mendacity, appeal to authority and emotion, and propaganda. I don&#8217;t &#8216;oppose comic relief&#8217;. I object to my donations ending in the pockets of a Nazi organisation or those that root for it.</p>
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		<title>By: Nearly Oxfordian</title>
		<link>http://hurryupharry.org/2009/03/07/a-nose-job/comment-page-3/#comment-314825</link>
		<dc:creator>Nearly Oxfordian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Mar 2009 11:52:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;This leaves me assuming that Nearly Oxfordian thinks any organisation falling short of heaping unconditional praise on Israel is also a sinister propaganda outfit beyond reproach. Nearly himself is of course a pillar of neutrality and political objectivity&lt;/i&gt;

This leaves me thinking that you can&#039;t read.
I never mentioned &#039;praise&#039;, conditional or otherwise. I was talking about not publishing demonstrable lies based on racist hatred.
Until you can write without resorting to such lies, you are the last person who should preach to me about objectivity.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>This leaves me assuming that Nearly Oxfordian thinks any organisation falling short of heaping unconditional praise on Israel is also a sinister propaganda outfit beyond reproach. Nearly himself is of course a pillar of neutrality and political objectivity</i></p>
<p>This leaves me thinking that you can&#8217;t read.<br />
I never mentioned &#8216;praise&#8217;, conditional or otherwise. I was talking about not publishing demonstrable lies based on racist hatred.<br />
Until you can write without resorting to such lies, you are the last person who should preach to me about objectivity.</p>
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		<title>By: Bertie</title>
		<link>http://hurryupharry.org/2009/03/07/a-nose-job/comment-page-3/#comment-314758</link>
		<dc:creator>Bertie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Mar 2009 06:57:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>FreeRingDings: &quot;Still fuck all that, and fuck the humanitarian crisis and the starving, amputated orphans and all that shit. I don’t want my money going to the towel heads either. Well done Bertie for being the voice of the silent majority!!!11!&quot;

If you would only read what I wrote you would see the offensiveness of your comment. Nothing I wrote refers to the final recipients of the money. I simply have a problem in Charities which do not meet their obligation to be “factually accurate and with a legitimate evidence base”. If &#039;Help The Aged&#039; was also infringing this requirement then I think that should be pointed out as well. In slanting their narrative, Charities are doing their beneficiaries no favours at all.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>FreeRingDings: &#8220;Still fuck all that, and fuck the humanitarian crisis and the starving, amputated orphans and all that shit. I don’t want my money going to the towel heads either. Well done Bertie for being the voice of the silent majority!!!11!&#8221;</p>
<p>If you would only read what I wrote you would see the offensiveness of your comment. Nothing I wrote refers to the final recipients of the money. I simply have a problem in Charities which do not meet their obligation to be “factually accurate and with a legitimate evidence base”. If &#8216;Help The Aged&#8217; was also infringing this requirement then I think that should be pointed out as well. In slanting their narrative, Charities are doing their beneficiaries no favours at all.</p>
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		<title>By: Free Ring Dings</title>
		<link>http://hurryupharry.org/2009/03/07/a-nose-job/comment-page-3/#comment-314726</link>
		<dc:creator>Free Ring Dings</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Mar 2009 00:01:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>According to Nearly Oxfordian the ICJ is a &quot;political propaganda body&quot;. He may have a point there, but then again he has already ruled out War on Want, Christian Aid, Oxfam, Save the Children, Amnesty International and the ICRC on the same basis. This leaves me assuming that Nearly Oxfordian thinks any organisation falling short of heaping unconditional praise on Israel is also a sinister propaganda outfit beyond reproach. Nearly himself is of course a pillar of neutrality and political objectivity.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>According to Nearly Oxfordian the ICJ is a &#8220;political propaganda body&#8221;. He may have a point there, but then again he has already ruled out War on Want, Christian Aid, Oxfam, Save the Children, Amnesty International and the ICRC on the same basis. This leaves me assuming that Nearly Oxfordian thinks any organisation falling short of heaping unconditional praise on Israel is also a sinister propaganda outfit beyond reproach. Nearly himself is of course a pillar of neutrality and political objectivity.</p>
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		<title>By: Voltaire's Priest</title>
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		<dc:creator>Voltaire's Priest</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Mar 2009 23:31:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;Voltaire - so you trust Hamas not to steal the money? You think it will percolate down to rebuilding family homes, rather than Hamas military facilities? Is your name Pangloss by any chance?&lt;/i&gt;

So I presume you must therefore oppose humanitarian aid to any people, anywhere, if the government overseeing the territory where they exist is one you consider dodgy, corrupt or authoritarian? In that case is it that you spend an awful lot of time giving aid to development projects on the Isle of Wight, or else that you simply don&#039;t agree with humanitarian aid? Or do you consider Hamas to be uniquely evil in this respect?

Opposing Comic Relief... is your name Mr Scrooge by any chance?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Voltaire &#8211; so you trust Hamas not to steal the money? You think it will percolate down to rebuilding family homes, rather than Hamas military facilities? Is your name Pangloss by any chance?</i></p>
<p>So I presume you must therefore oppose humanitarian aid to any people, anywhere, if the government overseeing the territory where they exist is one you consider dodgy, corrupt or authoritarian? In that case is it that you spend an awful lot of time giving aid to development projects on the Isle of Wight, or else that you simply don&#8217;t agree with humanitarian aid? Or do you consider Hamas to be uniquely evil in this respect?</p>
<p>Opposing Comic Relief&#8230; is your name Mr Scrooge by any chance?</p>
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		<title>By: Nearly Oxfordian</title>
		<link>http://hurryupharry.org/2009/03/07/a-nose-job/comment-page-3/#comment-314698</link>
		<dc:creator>Nearly Oxfordian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Mar 2009 22:27:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>dsquared, that&#039;s a category mistake. We are not talking about a specific building Y at location X. We are talking about the global principle. Yes, &lt;i&gt;a particular&lt;/i&gt; building Y may be illegal, just as a building anywhere in the world may be illegal if built without planning permission from the local authority. That has no bearing on my argument.

Israel is not a common law country. It encompasses principles of Ottoman statute, British statute and Jewish law. Property law still largely follows the basic principles of Ottoman statute law, with many later modifications.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>dsquared, that&#8217;s a category mistake. We are not talking about a specific building Y at location X. We are talking about the global principle. Yes, <i>a particular</i> building Y may be illegal, just as a building anywhere in the world may be illegal if built without planning permission from the local authority. That has no bearing on my argument.</p>
<p>Israel is not a common law country. It encompasses principles of Ottoman statute, British statute and Jewish law. Property law still largely follows the basic principles of Ottoman statute law, with many later modifications.</p>
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