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		<title>By: Groovy Times</title>
		<link>http://hurryupharry.org/2009/02/26/holocaust-resonance/comment-page-4/#comment-311823</link>
		<dc:creator>Groovy Times</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Mar 2009 20:48:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Perhaps that usurper of Jewish names, Ben Cohen, should shape-shift into a psuedo-African and spend some time on blogs where he can continue masturbating over his moral superiority by fantasizing that he is the only intellect in cyberspace capable of defining racism and slavery, while castigating the black collective consciousnous for being over-sensitive for taking continued manifestations of bigotry so seriously. Oh yeah baby, Ben &#039;double standard&#039; Cohen, you&#039;re the bright shining beacon of humanitarian resistance in the face of Zionist repression.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Perhaps that usurper of Jewish names, Ben Cohen, should shape-shift into a psuedo-African and spend some time on blogs where he can continue masturbating over his moral superiority by fantasizing that he is the only intellect in cyberspace capable of defining racism and slavery, while castigating the black collective consciousnous for being over-sensitive for taking continued manifestations of bigotry so seriously. Oh yeah baby, Ben &#8216;double standard&#8217; Cohen, you&#8217;re the bright shining beacon of humanitarian resistance in the face of Zionist repression.</p>
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		<title>By: Groovy Times</title>
		<link>http://hurryupharry.org/2009/02/26/holocaust-resonance/comment-page-4/#comment-311808</link>
		<dc:creator>Groovy Times</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Mar 2009 20:00:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Comparisons between Israel and Nazi Germany are indeed motivated by anti-Semitism. George Galloway is an anti-Semite and history will judge him as such. I note he did not mention Treblinka and the industrial scale of mass murder, where 12 - 15,000 Warsaw Jews were being exterminated DAILY. No, he mentions typhus and hunger, and subtley twists the historical record in the same way as that shameful demagogue and racist, David Irving.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Comparisons between Israel and Nazi Germany are indeed motivated by anti-Semitism. George Galloway is an anti-Semite and history will judge him as such. I note he did not mention Treblinka and the industrial scale of mass murder, where 12 &#8211; 15,000 Warsaw Jews were being exterminated DAILY. No, he mentions typhus and hunger, and subtley twists the historical record in the same way as that shameful demagogue and racist, David Irving.</p>
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		<title>By: Dan R</title>
		<link>http://hurryupharry.org/2009/02/26/holocaust-resonance/comment-page-4/#comment-311166</link>
		<dc:creator>Dan R</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Mar 2009 17:24:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If Israel intended to commit a Holocaust against the Palestinians why hasn&#039;t it done so already? It has the means.
So they&#039;re Nazis, but really inefficient ones...
If you think about it this way, it points up the lefty comparison as the poisonous rhetoric that it is, don&#039;t you think?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If Israel intended to commit a Holocaust against the Palestinians why hasn&#8217;t it done so already? It has the means.<br />
So they&#8217;re Nazis, but really inefficient ones&#8230;<br />
If you think about it this way, it points up the lefty comparison as the poisonous rhetoric that it is, don&#8217;t you think?</p>
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		<title>By: Anat</title>
		<link>http://hurryupharry.org/2009/02/26/holocaust-resonance/comment-page-4/#comment-311038</link>
		<dc:creator>Anat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Mar 2009 06:55:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Muffin,

My people are German Jews.  I was raised in a German Jewish refugee milieu in the United States. A lot of German Jews got out.  I once asked my father about it, and he said that because of the Nuremburg Laws many of the Jews who could travel did leave, but the communities in the Slavic countries got it in the neck because they couldn&#039;t believe that they had anything to fear from the civilized Germans.  For those people, trouble had always come from the east, and what the Germans had in store for them (us) was beyond comprehension.  And, then, of course, it was too late.

These days people talk about the Shoah, but when I was a child no one talked.  We children learned to listen to whispers and sighs, and to pay attention to stray sentences to discover what had happened to our families.  Even later, my father wouldn&#039;t talk.  I know his father was arrested on Kristallnacht, and was in jail or a holding camp for a month.  I know that his brothers and brothers-in-law got together and bribed someone to get my grandfather released, but I only know that because my father, many years later, saw a relative in Argentina and he reported that he had cut that man dead.  When asked, he said that the so-and-so (I am not being coy, my father did not swear in front of us) had refused to help my grandfather.  When asked about it later, my father stonewalled.  In my experience, this was common among our parents.

I was long married and a mother before my father would admit to me that some of our elderly (and one not so elderly) relatives had been murdered.  I, myself, refused to discuss the Shoah with my own children until they were at least ten years old - it is a huge burden for small children, and knowledge of this comes soon enough.

Perhaps someone else has the exact figures of German Jewish, as compared with other Jewish, murders.  And I do not use the term &quot;Holocaust,&quot; because in the United States the anti-choice brigade have co-opted the term to refer to abortion, which is beyond infuriating, so I use HaShoah because we are discussing real people.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Muffin,</p>
<p>My people are German Jews.  I was raised in a German Jewish refugee milieu in the United States. A lot of German Jews got out.  I once asked my father about it, and he said that because of the Nuremburg Laws many of the Jews who could travel did leave, but the communities in the Slavic countries got it in the neck because they couldn&#8217;t believe that they had anything to fear from the civilized Germans.  For those people, trouble had always come from the east, and what the Germans had in store for them (us) was beyond comprehension.  And, then, of course, it was too late.</p>
<p>These days people talk about the Shoah, but when I was a child no one talked.  We children learned to listen to whispers and sighs, and to pay attention to stray sentences to discover what had happened to our families.  Even later, my father wouldn&#8217;t talk.  I know his father was arrested on Kristallnacht, and was in jail or a holding camp for a month.  I know that his brothers and brothers-in-law got together and bribed someone to get my grandfather released, but I only know that because my father, many years later, saw a relative in Argentina and he reported that he had cut that man dead.  When asked, he said that the so-and-so (I am not being coy, my father did not swear in front of us) had refused to help my grandfather.  When asked about it later, my father stonewalled.  In my experience, this was common among our parents.</p>
<p>I was long married and a mother before my father would admit to me that some of our elderly (and one not so elderly) relatives had been murdered.  I, myself, refused to discuss the Shoah with my own children until they were at least ten years old &#8211; it is a huge burden for small children, and knowledge of this comes soon enough.</p>
<p>Perhaps someone else has the exact figures of German Jewish, as compared with other Jewish, murders.  And I do not use the term &#8220;Holocaust,&#8221; because in the United States the anti-choice brigade have co-opted the term to refer to abortion, which is beyond infuriating, so I use HaShoah because we are discussing real people.</p>
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		<title>By: BenCohen</title>
		<link>http://hurryupharry.org/2009/02/26/holocaust-resonance/comment-page-4/#comment-310677</link>
		<dc:creator>BenCohen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Feb 2009 23:59:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thats it guys, keep up the personal abuse. Its clear you cant debate the facts, so just proves your desperation when you accuse anyone and everyone of being &quot;anti-semitic&quot;, even if they are Jewish!

if the boycott of zionist businesses wasnt significant or has no impact, why does the Jewish Chronicle make it headline news?

Again, zionists dismiss anything they dont like as &quot;Lies&quot; but ALWAYS fail to contradict the facts and evidence, whether that relates to the &quot;6 million gassed&quot; allegations, 9/11 or the Gaza Holocaust.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thats it guys, keep up the personal abuse. Its clear you cant debate the facts, so just proves your desperation when you accuse anyone and everyone of being &#8220;anti-semitic&#8221;, even if they are Jewish!</p>
<p>if the boycott of zionist businesses wasnt significant or has no impact, why does the Jewish Chronicle make it headline news?</p>
<p>Again, zionists dismiss anything they dont like as &#8220;Lies&#8221; but ALWAYS fail to contradict the facts and evidence, whether that relates to the &#8220;6 million gassed&#8221; allegations, 9/11 or the Gaza Holocaust.</p>
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		<title>By: vildechaye</title>
		<link>http://hurryupharry.org/2009/02/26/holocaust-resonance/comment-page-4/#comment-310569</link>
		<dc:creator>vildechaye</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Feb 2009 20:11:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And SOS Muffin, i disagree with you. He&#039;s evil AND sick.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And SOS Muffin, i disagree with you. He&#8217;s evil AND sick.</p>
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		<title>By: vildechaye</title>
		<link>http://hurryupharry.org/2009/02/26/holocaust-resonance/comment-page-4/#comment-310567</link>
		<dc:creator>vildechaye</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Feb 2009 20:09:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i think the analogy of 7/7 and halal meat shops is very apt. And yet racist morons like &quot;ben cohen&quot; actually think that the boycott of kosher butchers in the UK is a good thing. Methinks he needs a logic course or two. on the other hand, logic never had much to do with blatant anti-semitism.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i think the analogy of 7/7 and halal meat shops is very apt. And yet racist morons like &#8220;ben cohen&#8221; actually think that the boycott of kosher butchers in the UK is a good thing. Methinks he needs a logic course or two. on the other hand, logic never had much to do with blatant anti-semitism.</p>
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		<title>By: Nearly Oxfordian</title>
		<link>http://hurryupharry.org/2009/02/26/holocaust-resonance/comment-page-4/#comment-310544</link>
		<dc:creator>Nearly Oxfordian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Feb 2009 19:22:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>BZ is pure comedy gold:

&lt;i&gt;Zionist extremist loses argument, cannot respond intelligently with facts and reason, so resorts to personal abuse. Typical.&lt;/i&gt;

ROFL. You talk about facts and reason ... oh, my sainted aunt Amelia.
To this babe, objecting to the annihilation of Israel and the murder of Jews is &#039;extremist&#039;. And he says this with all the earnestness that his 2 years of primary school can muster.

&lt;i&gt;Larry Silverstein’s deal to purchase an asbestos-ridden buldings 6 months prior to 9/11, the insurance requirement specifically adding ‘terrorist attack’ to the schedule, and the mysterious fall of the 3rd WTC building in the same fashion as the previous 2 buildings even though no plane had it - all that is co-incidence is it? And thats just 1 thread of 200 that support the explanation of zionist involvement in 9/11.&lt;/i&gt;

Let me explain something here, babe, which may help you when you grow up: &#039;threads&#039; don&#039;t prove anything. The world is chock-fool of ignorant loons like you, posting Grade I* nonsense day-in, day-out. That&#039;s all you do, after all. 100,000 loons shrieking &#039;The earth is flat&#039; on 200 threads proves exactly nothing, except that they are idiots.

And there had been a previous terrorist attack on the WTC, just in case your lunatic co-threaders have omitted to tell you this. Completely by accident, of course.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>BZ is pure comedy gold:</p>
<p><i>Zionist extremist loses argument, cannot respond intelligently with facts and reason, so resorts to personal abuse. Typical.</i></p>
<p>ROFL. You talk about facts and reason &#8230; oh, my sainted aunt Amelia.<br />
To this babe, objecting to the annihilation of Israel and the murder of Jews is &#8216;extremist&#8217;. And he says this with all the earnestness that his 2 years of primary school can muster.</p>
<p><i>Larry Silverstein’s deal to purchase an asbestos-ridden buldings 6 months prior to 9/11, the insurance requirement specifically adding ‘terrorist attack’ to the schedule, and the mysterious fall of the 3rd WTC building in the same fashion as the previous 2 buildings even though no plane had it &#8211; all that is co-incidence is it? And thats just 1 thread of 200 that support the explanation of zionist involvement in 9/11.</i></p>
<p>Let me explain something here, babe, which may help you when you grow up: &#8216;threads&#8217; don&#8217;t prove anything. The world is chock-fool of ignorant loons like you, posting Grade I* nonsense day-in, day-out. That&#8217;s all you do, after all. 100,000 loons shrieking &#8216;The earth is flat&#8217; on 200 threads proves exactly nothing, except that they are idiots.</p>
<p>And there had been a previous terrorist attack on the WTC, just in case your lunatic co-threaders have omitted to tell you this. Completely by accident, of course.</p>
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		<title>By: Israelinurse</title>
		<link>http://hurryupharry.org/2009/02/26/holocaust-resonance/comment-page-4/#comment-310541</link>
		<dc:creator>Israelinurse</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Feb 2009 19:20:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jane - yes, I can fully understand why people with no stake in the ME conflict might regard Israel&#039;s recent actions in Gaza as disproportionate if they rely on British MSM as their source of information.
Maybe I&#039;m asking too much, but I would expect intelligent people to try to investigate further; to look beyond the 3 minute sound-bytes dished out to them. I would expect them to have proper knowledge of the history behind the current conflict and be conversant with the aims and ideologies of the parties involved.
I would also expect that they be familiar with the correct use of the term &#039;disproportionate&#039; in military terms.
If people can&#039;t be bothered to try to understand such a complex conflict properly, they should not be voicing opinions intended to influence the outcome of that conflict. 
I DO have a stake in this conflict and I am sick to death of people who don&#039;t trying to determine my future as part of some fashionable hobby. They won&#039;t have to live (or die) with the consequences -I will.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jane &#8211; yes, I can fully understand why people with no stake in the ME conflict might regard Israel&#8217;s recent actions in Gaza as disproportionate if they rely on British MSM as their source of information.<br />
Maybe I&#8217;m asking too much, but I would expect intelligent people to try to investigate further; to look beyond the 3 minute sound-bytes dished out to them. I would expect them to have proper knowledge of the history behind the current conflict and be conversant with the aims and ideologies of the parties involved.<br />
I would also expect that they be familiar with the correct use of the term &#8216;disproportionate&#8217; in military terms.<br />
If people can&#8217;t be bothered to try to understand such a complex conflict properly, they should not be voicing opinions intended to influence the outcome of that conflict.<br />
I DO have a stake in this conflict and I am sick to death of people who don&#8217;t trying to determine my future as part of some fashionable hobby. They won&#8217;t have to live (or die) with the consequences -I will.</p>
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		<title>By: Nearly Oxfordian</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nearly Oxfordian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Feb 2009 19:15:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;I was driving in my Big expensive car this morning(to the left, is that a crime these days?, oh well I can live with it) &lt;/i&gt;

Well, I am not the &#039;left&#039; in the sense that you probably mean it - I am an old-fashioned liberal, a shade &#039;left&#039; (if that still means anything) of centre on some issues and a shade to the &#039;right&#039; (ditto) on others; and yes, I think it&#039;s a crime.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>I was driving in my Big expensive car this morning(to the left, is that a crime these days?, oh well I can live with it) </i></p>
<p>Well, I am not the &#8216;left&#8217; in the sense that you probably mean it &#8211; I am an old-fashioned liberal, a shade &#8216;left&#8217; (if that still means anything) of centre on some issues and a shade to the &#8216;right&#8217; (ditto) on others; and yes, I think it&#8217;s a crime.</p>
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