Comments on: School assemblies row – what the BBC didn’t tell you

By: SHENZFRANK

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By: SHENZFRANK

SHENZFRANK — Wed, 18 Feb 2009 08:52:44 +0000

By: Brian from Toronto

Brian from Toronto — Thu, 12 Feb 2009 16:57:51 +0000

Michael Rosen,

Thanks for your informative reply – I always find it interesting to learn how oddities such as the requirement for Christian assemblies in secular schools come about.

We also have state-funded religious schools, though it’s handled a bit differently in each province. Here in Ontario (Canada’s largest province) only Catholic schools are state funded, which creates obvious inequities. But the province can’t not fund Catholic schools, because such funding is constitutionally required.

Naturally the Catholic schools are Catholic, but they follow the common curriculum and are open to non-Catholic students

By: comstock

comstock — Thu, 12 Feb 2009 02:37:10 +0000

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But nobody – nobody – should be forced to send their kids to a religious ceremony they don’t want to be part of.

Yes but the whole ethos of our society and those aspects pertaining to multiculturalism and individual rights are configured to effect a sort of quasi-religious ambience, admit it. You cannot state that Islam is bad with out being insulted. It is a direct lie that muslims indulge in, and explains why they are so hated by some, concerning the child, ‘being forced to sing a hym by a teacher.”

By: HPhypocrite

HPhypocrite — Wed, 11 Feb 2009 19:19:33 +0000

“But this wasn’t to be a ‘Christian’ assembly. Rather, the Sheffield Telegraph reports that Robinson wanted ‘assemblies for all the pupils, which would encompass all faiths‘.”

No she wanted them to sing Christian hymns which would be idolatrous to Muslims

“. ‘Racism’ is a word that has been greatly abused by a particular group of people seeking special status for their religious beliefs – i.e. Islamists – and crying wolf in this way trivialises the very real problem of racism. ”

LOL. Something no one could accuse a particular community of.

By: gev pearce

gev pearce — Wed, 11 Feb 2009 19:08:32 +0000

I think Dan and Micheal R have summed up the situation wonderfully

By: a

Wed, 11 Feb 2009 14:07:23 +0000

Let’s be clear here. If you believe in freedom of religion then you should support the right of Muslims not to go to some ‘all in’ assembly. End of story.

If you are an athiest like me, then you also believe this crap shouldn’t be in schools at all.

But nobody – nobody – should be forced to send their kids to a religious ceremony they don’t want to be part of.

By: qidniz

qidniz — Wed, 11 Feb 2009 13:50:33 +0000

I’m going to have to go all Dawkins on your ass, here, qidniz. How the fuck can a new-born child be “Muslim”? Can a new-born child consciously observe the five pillars? Are beliefs somehow passed from mother to child via the umblicial cord?

I think you know what I meant by the idiom, but if you insist, I’ll try to be sufficiently pedantic and exact. By “born Muslim”, I meant: born into a household which can be similarly described as, or to parents who similarly would describe themselves as, Muslims; and subsequently are raised in a family and kinship environment consisting of Muslims. Just about everyone is “born into (some religion or other)” in that sense, and it’s probably a good thing that only a minority take that default legacy, acquired before the capacity for rational thought, seriously.

By: comstock

comstock — Wed, 11 Feb 2009 12:32:55 +0000

Multi faith assemblies are a no boner. Those BBC Mark Tully multi-faith, spiritual uplifts , like wonderbras, programmes are puke inducing. Tully has a multi faith willy apparently!
Why not have assemblies asking the young muslim boys and girls if Christians and the other faiths should have the same religious freedoms in Mecca and Medina they have in East London and elsewhere. Get Yusof Islam in on this he is into education, education, education.

By: Ed

Ed — Wed, 11 Feb 2009 11:12:13 +0000

“I’m going to have to go all Dawkins on your ass, here, qidniz. How the fuck can a new-born child be “Muslim”? Can a new-born child consciously observe the five pillars? Are beliefs somehow passed from mother to child via the umblicial cord?”

People are what their parents say they are until they’re old enough to decide. If liberals want more secular, atheist children they should stop having so many abortions.