We’ve read the Quran, Hadith and Tafsirs too.

Muhammad’s progressive message was simple: Muslims are the coolest, the elected anointed to cleanse the earth of riffraff, infidels, and other lower life forms repugnant to Muh–oops, excuse me– Allah.

The universalist message was even simpler. Everyone gets three choices: convert, knuckle under, or die. No exceptions.

But there is nothing to highlight.

Mohammed murdered thousands of people. He was an oppressive tyrant. That’s why, upon hearing of Mohammed’s death, the entire Arabian peninsula went into open revolt against both his successor AND islam.

That break away for freedom was brutally supressed, although it took several years.

Or conclude that Qaradawi’s cohorts of believers are evil?

Anti-semitism is no longer a left-wing concern.

No, indeed it isn’t – rather it’s gotten to be something of an obsession!

David are you really sure that your average left wing identifying person would “probably very quickly add … that Jews have become the new Nazis”?

I am sympathetic to your point of view but I know quite a few ordinary middle-class white suburban people who describe themselves as left wing as well as a few that don’t but who would still see themselves as anti-war. They would take the statement above as a matter of course. They would also add that Israel was created on the back of European guilt and foisted on the Palestinians. And just look at the dignity of those rabbis [Neturei Karta] on the marches…and what about J-BIG and Norman Finkelstein…they can’t be anti-semitic, they’re Jewish! Pointing out or describing incidents of anti-semitism is met with silence, a change of subject or an expression of understanding for the emotional suffering of the perpetrators. The difference with the SWP is that they don’t think Israel should be destroyed; rather it shouldn’t have existed in the first place.

Mrs Ben

Do we have any arabists here who can translate it for us independently?

Any translation, however accurate, by any arabist posted here would be dismissed as lies for the same reason that MEMRI’s are.

Herman
Unfortunately, the popularity of Louis Davids never saved Dutch Jews nor affection for Josef Schmidt or the Comedian Harmonists the Jews of Germany.

HPhypocrite

You said that Funny Rabbi Ovadia Yosef head of the Shas party said pretty much teh same thing [as Qaradawi] about Holocaust victims.

The article you cite says he said this: He called the Nazis “evil” and the victims “poor people,” but he concluded that the six million “were reincarnations of the souls of sinners, people who transgressed and did all sorts of things which should not be done. They had been reincarnated in order to atone.”

It should be noted that Rabbi Yosef described the Nazis as “evil.” Qaradawi said that the next Holocaust would be “at the hand of the believers.” Perhaps you will understand the difference between these two statements, reprehensible as they are.

To me and my family the only method of combat is to wind up our lives here as soon as possible and return to the one place where a Jew does not have to put up with anti-Semitism. There is no reason for Jews to endure this as they had to in the past. We have an alternative.

This post will surely be pruned but at least I will have the satisfaction of knowing that my views are correct, if only for a fleeting moment , Voice of Reason your ‘ Voice’ is precisely one of these Echos of a bygone age, your refusal to accept this will prove to be your undoing. It really is people like you that will cause your eventual downfall, not the west or the jews or imperialists or communists or neocons or any other of your imagined demons but ‘You’ and people like ‘You’. You don’t yet seem able to come to terms with this fact but one day you may or maybe you will choose the fast track option to paradise, either way you will be proven wrong in all you profess, of that I am certain.
In fact I am as certain in my view as you are in your belief of the eventual victory of your version of Islam. One of us is Wrong in their belief and therein lies the problem.
You see you think the west is weak but again as with so many of your thoughts you are quite mistaken.

Bollocks! Lying scum!

It started when Jews rejected Mohammed as their Prophet and Islam as their religion.

Then Mohammed slaughtered Jewish tribes. Held them to be 2nd clas citizens under Islamic rule.

A Jewess was accused of poisoning Mohammed – who dies THREE year later. Hence, it was just an opportunity to pretend that a Jew had killed Mohammed so that Jew hate could propogate.

Jews as “Apes and Pigs”. Sura 5.54 “Take not the Christians and The Jews as friends……”

Yeah! It started with Zionism! Bollocks!

Your refusal and the refusal of some of your fellow believers to accept this is the year 2009 and not 636 C.E. will without doubt end in tears for you and your ilk but not, I fear, before a whole generation have once again been subjected to the horrors of war.

You and people like you Always make the same mistake of thinking that ‘They Don’t Want To Fight’ means the same as ‘They Will Not Fight’. That is the tragedy of the present impasse, with regards to Radical Islam and the rest of the planet.

The Majority of the west has a system of democracy that allows “the people” to choose which leaders it wants to represent them for a given period of time and I think that You, People like you and a large proportion of the left are in for quite a shock come election time.

Oh yes and just a thought are YOU saying the MEMRI translation is Zionist mistranslation, because if you are why don’t you just have self respect, and obvious conviction of your beliefs that people like yourself bleat on about constantly and admit thats what you think. Just for once can ‘You’ and people ‘You’ have the guts to say what you mean, well? will you? no I didn’t think so, no matter “Truth Will Out”.