Comments on: Explain it to Stephen Timms

By: Mrs Ben

Mrs Ben — Mon, 09 Feb 2009 12:37:08 +0000

Correction needed – there were around 60m residents of the UK last year and of these around 2m Moslems. That makes Moslems around 3.5% of population. Just under half the population are registered to vote, so counting the same for Moslems, there are around 1m eligible and registered to vote maybe less due to the high birth rates and large families.

So there are just under 1m Moslems registered to vote across 646 constituencies only of course they are concentrated in particular areas. This means can swing the vote in maybe 40 constituencies, despite being as such a relatively small percentage of the voting population. It shows you why New Labour is so desperate to canvass their vote and accommodate elements of sharia law within our legal system. Particularly the likes of StevenTimms who has over 30% Moslems in his electorate.

By: Mrs Ben

Mrs Ben — Mon, 09 Feb 2009 12:14:55 +0000

Following up the reference quoted above

“Operation Muslim Vote” has been a three-stage effort. The first was a classic co-optation manoeuvre involving the creation of “Muslim forums” within each party. In July 2003, Stephen Timms, Labour MP for East Ham – 30% of whose residents are Muslim – inaugurated the “independent” Muslims for Labour group (now Muslim Friends of Labour). I assume this is the group which has put pressure on him about interpal.

By: Mrs Ben

Mrs Ben — Mon, 09 Feb 2009 11:58:06 +0000

PS Above figures were for 2005

By: Mrs Ben

Mrs Ben — Mon, 09 Feb 2009 11:56:13 +0000

Top of the list:

% of Moslem voters

Birmingham Sparkbrook and Small Heath (37.40%),
Bradford West (30.36%),
East Ham (27.17%),
Bethnal Green and Bow (23.05%),
Birmingham Ladywood (21.35%),
Blackburn (16.50%),
Bradford North (15.50%),
West Ham (15.23%),
Birmingham Hodge Hill (14.24%),
Poplar and Canning Town (13.73%),
Rochdale (12.99%),
Luton South (12.86%),
Walthamstow (12.82%),
Manchester Gorton (12.78%)
(Source: http://www.q-news.com/362-ConstituencyWatch.html)

I am intrigued by this. These are only the top of the list and there are presumably other constituencies with significant numbers of Moslem voters: Dewsbury for example. Yet we are constantly told that only 10% of the UK population are Moslems, and presumably at least half of these are under 18. I am no statistician and I realise that the number of voting Moslems is very small in some areas, but does anyone else feel that somewhere the official figures are not stacking up?.

By: Mrs Ben

Mrs Ben — Mon, 09 Feb 2009 11:49:41 +0000

Seems quite clear to me, steps were taken to ban Interpal here, because it was on the US Banned List and when the MCB or similar got to hear of it, they made representations for it to be left alone. Timms is therefore backing off and trying, in a mealy mouthed form, to justify an MCB influenced decision not to ban it in the UK.

By: cjcjc

cjcjc — Mon, 09 Feb 2009 08:40:48 +0000

We saw this kind of thing 20 years ago didn’t we, with fatty Hattersley refusing to condemn the burning of The Satanic Verses…

By: DrD

DrD — Sun, 08 Feb 2009 22:49:15 +0000

If you have sex with a nine year old in Iran then any charges against you are without merit and are worthless(provided you are married of course, anything else would be unseemly)

By: Bill Corr

Bill Corr — Sun, 08 Feb 2009 21:01:45 +0000

So is Timms a total saphead or a cunning Machiavellian? He MUST know the facts about Hamas. Yes?

MattG mentions Timms’ constituency of East Ham. When did the Labour Party become addicted to Muslim votes? Can any HP aficionado put a figure on an exact year?

In which constituencies is the Muslim vote the decisive factor? We all know about Gorgeous George Galloway, but he’s very much a one-man-show.

Can Baroness Warsi succeed in corralling a worthwhile number of Muslim Conservatives?

By: Nick (ex South Africa)

Nick (ex South Africa) — Sun, 08 Feb 2009 20:52:16 +0000

Any estimate of what percentage of the money donated to Hamas is funneled to terrorism?

If it’s 40%, you might have a case. If it’s 4%, your case is worthless.

Demolish by Reductio ad absurdum – If 4 times in every 100 you have sex, you have it with a 10 year old, is any resulting charge of pedophilia against you, without merit….is it ‘worthless’?

Admit it, its a silly argument.

By: Maven

Maven — Sun, 08 Feb 2009 20:46:52 +0000

very widely supported by Muslims in my constituency

Ah! That’ll be it! The “Muslim Lobby”