Explain it to Stephen Timms
Stephen Timms MP is a self-described “Christian Socialist“, who is the Financial Secretary to the Treasury.
He recently gave the a speech at the IPPR, which contained the following passage:
Many people are motivated by faith to give financially to alleviate suffering – for example in Gaza after the recent conflict. The UK NGO Interpal is a channel for such contributions, very widely supported by Muslims in my constituency and elsewhere, and respected by other NGOs. But its continued operation is threatened by the withdrawal of facilities by UK clearing banks, because Interpal is on a US proscribed list. It wouldn’t be right if mainstream routes for British Muslims’ humanitarian contributions were blocked by unexplained concerns from outside the UK.
Unexplained?
The reason that Interpal is on a US proscribed list is that the US Treasury has identified it as part of the Hamas funding machinery.
Interpal/The Palestinian Relief and Development Fund
U.S. Designation Date: August 22, 2003
Background: Interpal, headquartered in the UK, has been a principal charity utilized to hide the flow of money to HAMAS. Reporting indicates it is the conduit through which money flows to HAMAS from other charities, e.g., the Al Aqsa Foundation, and that it oversees the activities of other charities. For example, the Sanabil Association for Relief and Development represents Interpal in Lebanon. Reporting also indicates that Interpal is the fundraising coordinator of HAMAS, a coordination point for other HAMAS-affiliated charities. This role is of the type that includes supervising activities of charities, developing new charities in targeted areas, instructing how funds should be transferred from one charity to another, and even determining public relations policy.
AKAs: Relief and Development Fund For Palestine
Welfare and Development Fund of Palestine
Palestinian Aid and Support Fund
For Additional Information: http://www.treas.gov/press/releases/js672.htm
The US Treasury has a very good understanding of the role that ‘charitable donations’ have played in Hamas’ strategy, and it has acted firmly against it:
HAMAS raises tens of millions or dollars per year throughout the world using charitable fundraising as cover. While HAMAS may provide money for legitimate charitable work, this work is a primary recruiting tool for the organization’s militant causes. HAMAS relies on donations from Palestinian expatriates around the world and private benefactors located in moderate Arab states, Western Europe and North America. HAMAS uses a web of charities to facilitate funding and to funnel money. Charitable donations to non-governmental organizations are commingled, moved between charities in ways that hide the money trail, and then often diverted or siphoned to support terrorism.
The funds pouring into HAMAS coffers directly undermine the Middle East peace process. These funds allow the group to continue to foment violence, strengthen its terrorist infrastructure, and undermine responsible leadership.
The political leadership of HAMAS directs its terrorist networks just as they oversee their other activities. HAMAS leader Yassin confirms this relationship, stating to al-Sharq al-Awsat on August 12, 2002: “When we make decisions on the political level and convey them to the military wing, it abides by it normally.” The intensity of this relationship is reflected in Yassin’s words quoted by Reuters on May 12, 1998:
We can not separate the wing from the body. If we do so, the body will not be able to fly. HAMAS is one body.
A report issued by Human Rights Watch has also noted the unified nature of HAMAS:
In the case of Hamas, there is abundant evidence that the military wing is accountable to a political steering committee . . . . Yassin himself, as well as Salah Shehadah, the late founder and commander of the ‘Izz al-Din al-Qassam Brigades, have confirmed in public remarks that the military wing implements policies that are set by the political wing.” Erased in a Moment: Suicide Bombing Attacks Against Israeli Civilians at 63 (October 2002).
Fundraising may involve community solicitation in the United States, Canada, Europe and the Middle East or solicitations directly to wealthy donors. While some donors may be aware of the intended use of their donations, too many innocent donors who intend for their money to be used to provide humanitarian services here or abroad, are unwittingly funding acts of violence when these funds are diverted to terrorist causes.
HAMAS fundraising directly undermines Prime Minister Mahmud Abbas’s ability to clamp down on this terrorist organization. One of the obstacles and threats to establishing a meaningful dialogue toward peace comes from terrorist groups such as HAMAS, which view peace discussions as inimical to their interests and are intent on undermining the multilateral work on the roadmap by fomenting violence. In order to support momentum towards peace, to strengthen the ability of the new Palestinian leadership to take the actions it must take against HAMAS, the assets of groups like HAMAS must be frozen, as well as the assets of organizations raising funds for such terrorist groups.
E.O. 13224 provides a means to disrupt the financial-support network funding terrorist attacks committed by HAMAS. Under this Order, the United States government may block the assets of HAMAS (which it has done) and the assets of individuals and entities owned or controlled by; acting for or on behalf of; or providing support, financial or otherwise, to designated terrorists and terrorist organizations. HAMAS has been designated as a Foreign Terrorist Organization (66 Fed. Reg. 51088) and as a Specially Designated Global Terrorist (SDGT) under Executive Order 13224, “Blocking Property and Prohibiting Transactions with Persons who Commit, or Support Terrorism.”
Last year, the US Treasury designated another charity called the “Union of Good”, identifying it as “an organization created by Hamas leadership to transfer funds to the terrorist organization”. The Union of Good is also linked to Interpal:
The Union of Good’s executive leadership and board of directors includes Hamas leaders, Specially Designated Global Terrorists (SDGTs), and other terrorist supporters. The secretary general of the Union of Good, for example, also acts as the vice-chairman of the United Kingdom-based Interpal, which was designated in 2003 for providing financial support to Hamas under the cover of charitable activity. As of mid-2007, this official served on the Hamas executive committee under Hamas leader Khaled Misha’al.
Mr Mustafa, also known as Essam Yusuf, appears several times in the transcript of a Panorama documentary that considered the role of UK Charities in funding Hamas:
WARE: Charity commission guidelines require Interpal’s trustees to disassociate themselves completely from any hint of support for terrorism. And yet, on television in the Gulf, Interpal’s Vice Chairman has sounded as if he might support terrorism. 2002
With me is brother Essam Yusuf from Qatar. Go ahead brother
Essam YUSUF: Peace be with you. Greetings to the Sheikh of the Mujahideen. Sheikh Dr Yusuf Ql-Qaradawi. The sheikh of heroic stands. But my biggest salutation is to the Mujahideen, to the heroes of the Palestinian people who are sacrificing everything that is precious.
JOHN WARE Doctor Yusuf denied his words meant that he supported suicide bombers. He said he was simply saluting Sheikh Qaradawi as the Sheikh of strugglers. He did say that he was opposed to suicide bombers targeting innocent people, but it was for others to decide who was innocent. An article in Doctor Yusuf’s name also talks of “our battle with the Zionist enemy” being a long one. “And of support for Jihad, in all its forms, until God allows for victory. Victory only comes from God.” To Hamas supporters, Jihad, in all its forms, includes suicide bombing. But Doctor Yusuf insists he never wrote or approved those words. Even though the article was commissioned by his own organisation, the Union of Good and appeared in his name. Doctor Yusuf also denies his Union of Good website expresses support for Hamas. Even though it includes a picture of Sheikh Yassin, the founder of Hamas, on the page of a children’s campaign called the Al Yassin Fund.
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WARE: In Yemen, Doctor Yusuf also met Sheikh Mohammed Moyad, now in jail in America for funding Hamas, and trying to fund Al Qaeda. He ran a charity in the Union of Good, and he was being investigated by the FBI. They’d set up a sting at this hotel in Frankfurt. Their informants posed as men who wanted to spend $2 million on Jihad.FBI video
WARE: This video was played at Al Moyad’s trial. He offered 4 receipts from Islamic charities as proof that he could get money to Jihad.
MOYAD: This one, for instance, we deliver it to Hamas. This one we deliver it to the interior. This one we send it to the martyrs. But when we are in front of our government¿ [laughter]
WARE: One of the receipts was from Interpal, for $70,000, which listed items like food, medical aid, and summer camps for children.
MOORE: In the middle of that conversation room service happened to walk in, in the hotel in Frankfurt. And when they walked in Moyad quickly flipped the papers over so that they couldn’t be seen, and instructed everyone to change the subject, which obviously, if you were talking about charitable matters, he wouldn’t have had to do.
WARE: To reassure the FBI informants their money would actually fund Jihad, Al Moyad then offered these details about Interpal.
AL MOYAD: It’s Interpal. It’s a company which I visited in London, and I sat with them there. They’re good.
WARE: Al Moyad said that, in London, he’d dealt personally with Interpal’s managing trustee, Doctor Essam Yusuf.
MOYAD: I sat with Essam, he’s one of the best people. He is, tell him, the assistant, the one responsible for things after Sheikh Al-Qaradawi in the Union of Good.
PARTICIPANT: Are they Hamas as well?
MOYAD: They are working for all of the Islamic jihad. So this is Hamas also.
During the US prosecution of the Hamas funding and advocacy network, uncovered in the Holy Land Foundation trial, the centrality of fundraising in western democracies to Hamas became clear. You may remember that, during the course of the trial, Hamas/Muslim Brotherhood documentation was disclosed, in which their aim was described in the following terms:
The Ikhwan must understand that their work in America is a kind of grand Jihad in eliminating and destroying the Western civilization from within and ’sabotaging’ its miserable house by their hands and the hands of the believers so that it is eliminated and Allah’s religion is made victorious over all other religions.
As we have seen, Hamas’s strategy depends on its ability to monopolise the provision of welfare, where it operates. Welfare is delivered to Hamas supporters. Its political opponents are starved, kneecapped, and thrown of buildings.
So jealously does it guard that monopoly, that it steals aid from UNWRA. This is the position of the Hamas Social Affairs Minister on the distribution of aid in Gaza:
Earlier in the week, Mr Kurd warned Unrwa not to “become a political player in Gaza”. He said all aid should be distributed through Hamas.
Hamas understands the political nature of aid distribution. So does the US Government. But does Stephen Timms?
There are two possibilities:
1. Stephen Timms is an ingenue, who really has no idea why Interpal was designated. Despite being Financial Secretary to the Treasury, he has no understanding of the impact on anti-money laundering and anti-terrorist financing laws have on banks. He would be surprised and shocked to discover the role that overseas charities play in the funding of Hamas.
2. He knows perfectly well why Interpal was designated by the US Treasury, and why banks are withdrawing facilities from this organisation. However, he is sympathetic to Hamas, and doesn’t wish to stand in their way.
Stephen Timms was a speaker at the Global Peace and Unity Conference, which showcased Holocaust deniers, 9/11 conspiracy theorists, and supporters of the assassination of Sir Salman Rushdie. The nature of these speakers, and of the event, was well known in advance of the meeting. He decided to proceed with his appearance at the event, despite concerns being expressed by some of his cabinet colleagues.
Have a read of his speech. See if you can work out why Stephen Timms is so confused.
Comments
| 8 February 2009, 5:48 pm |
Is it really the case that every ignorant idiot can be a member of this government?
Answers on a postcard.
| 8 February 2009, 6:13 pm |
A conspiracy theorist might claim that he’s part of the All-Powerful Christian Anti-Zionist Lobby in the UK…
| 8 February 2009, 6:30 pm |
Here’s an appeal to keep an eye on.
Fronted by George Galloway and now claiming that they have enough medicine, so just request money,
promising
you can guaranteed that every penny we receive via this site will be used to the benefit of our brothers and sisters in Gaza.
Oh dear, where have we heard that before.
When Galloway launched the Mariam Appeal he claimed that all money not spent on Mariam Hamzas Medical treatment would be sent to Iraq ” in the form of of food and medicine”.
What it was actually returned to Iraq in the form of was of course, a small MP in a big Hotel.And a vehicle for receiving Oil for Food Money siphoned away from those Iraqis who needed food and medicine.
Its doubtful that Vivapalestina will be a registered charity.
George learnt at War on Want that too many receipts can be embarrassing
Lets hope this new campaign can resist the temptation for having George Galloways planes,hotels and taxis as a large chunk of its outlay.
| 8 February 2009, 6:36 pm |
A third option, not necessary exclusive option, it works well with either of the other 2. And that is that he has very poor critical thinking skills.
Because why else would he subscribe in the 21st century to the obsolete, debunked ideologies of Socialism or Christianity?
| 8 February 2009, 6:40 pm |
He is MP for East Ham is he not.
Take a trip there and have a look around. You will see who his constituency is.
His tenure as MP is obviously and understandably very important to him.
That doesn’t excuse his ignorance in any way. But it may be worth adding as one of the ‘possibilities’ in your post.
MattG
| 8 February 2009, 6:55 pm |
And that is that he has very poor critical thinking skills
There seems to be plenty of evidence for that.
These are the people ‘governing’ this country … sigh.
| 8 February 2009, 7:11 pm |
Any estimate of what percentage of the money donated to Hamas is funneled to terrorism?
If it’s 40%, you might have a case. If it’s 4%, your case is worthless.
In another aspect, you mix all along your piece the feature of Hamas being totalitarian with the feature of its being terroristic. They’re not the same.
| 8 February 2009, 7:13 pm |
If that 4% is enough to buy one rocket, that rocket kills one person, is it still worthless?
| 8 February 2009, 7:37 pm |
I think the salient point Hasbara is that you don’t know, and Hamas decides.
| 8 February 2009, 8:10 pm |
They’re not the same
But Hamas is both.
| 8 February 2009, 8:46 pm |
very widely supported by Muslims in my constituency
Ah! That’ll be it! The “Muslim Lobby”
| 8 February 2009, 8:52 pm |
Any estimate of what percentage of the money donated to Hamas is funneled to terrorism?
If it’s 40%, you might have a case. If it’s 4%, your case is worthless.
Demolish by Reductio ad absurdum – If 4 times in every 100 you have sex, you have it with a 10 year old, is any resulting charge of pedophilia against you, without merit….is it ‘worthless’?
Admit it, its a silly argument.
| 8 February 2009, 9:01 pm |
So is Timms a total saphead or a cunning Machiavellian? He MUST know the facts about Hamas. Yes?
MattG mentions Timms’ constituency of East Ham. When did the Labour Party become addicted to Muslim votes? Can any HP aficionado put a figure on an exact year?
In which constituencies is the Muslim vote the decisive factor? We all know about Gorgeous George Galloway, but he’s very much a one-man-show.
Can Baroness Warsi succeed in corralling a worthwhile number of Muslim Conservatives?
| 8 February 2009, 10:49 pm |
If you have sex with a nine year old in Iran then any charges against you are without merit and are worthless(provided you are married of course, anything else would be unseemly)
| 9 February 2009, 8:40 am |
We saw this kind of thing 20 years ago didn’t we, with fatty Hattersley refusing to condemn the burning of The Satanic Verses…
| 9 February 2009, 11:49 am |
Seems quite clear to me, steps were taken to ban Interpal here, because it was on the US Banned List and when the MCB or similar got to hear of it, they made representations for it to be left alone. Timms is therefore backing off and trying, in a mealy mouthed form, to justify an MCB influenced decision not to ban it in the UK.
| 9 February 2009, 11:56 am |
Top of the list:
% of Moslem voters
Birmingham Sparkbrook and Small Heath (37.40%),
Bradford West (30.36%),
East Ham (27.17%),
Bethnal Green and Bow (23.05%),
Birmingham Ladywood (21.35%),
Blackburn (16.50%),
Bradford North (15.50%),
West Ham (15.23%),
Birmingham Hodge Hill (14.24%),
Poplar and Canning Town (13.73%),
Rochdale (12.99%),
Luton South (12.86%),
Walthamstow (12.82%),
Manchester Gorton (12.78%)
(Source: http://www.q-news.com/362-ConstituencyWatch.html)
I am intrigued by this. These are only the top of the list and there are presumably other constituencies with significant numbers of Moslem voters: Dewsbury for example. Yet we are constantly told that only 10% of the UK population are Moslems, and presumably at least half of these are under 18. I am no statistician and I realise that the number of voting Moslems is very small in some areas, but does anyone else feel that somewhere the official figures are not stacking up?.
| 9 February 2009, 11:58 am |
PS Above figures were for 2005
| 9 February 2009, 12:14 pm |
Following up the reference quoted above
“Operation Muslim Vote” has been a three-stage effort. The first was a classic co-optation manoeuvre involving the creation of “Muslim forums” within each party. In July 2003, Stephen Timms, Labour MP for East Ham – 30% of whose residents are Muslim – inaugurated the “independent” Muslims for Labour group (now Muslim Friends of Labour). I assume this is the group which has put pressure on him about interpal.
| 9 February 2009, 12:37 pm |
Correction needed – there were around 60m residents of the UK last year and of these around 2m Moslems. That makes Moslems around 3.5% of population. Just under half the population are registered to vote, so counting the same for Moslems, there are around 1m eligible and registered to vote maybe less due to the high birth rates and large families.
So there are just under 1m Moslems registered to vote across 646 constituencies only of course they are concentrated in particular areas. This means can swing the vote in maybe 40 constituencies, despite being as such a relatively small percentage of the voting population. It shows you why New Labour is so desperate to canvass their vote and accommodate elements of sharia law within our legal system. Particularly the likes of StevenTimms who has over 30% Moslems in his electorate.


I understand that the most recent Charity Commission investigation into Interpal concluded in early December. For some reason it has not been published yet, though.