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	<title>Comments on: Just Journalism on the Reporting of the Gaza Conflict</title>
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	<description>Liberty, if it means anything, is the right to tell people what they don&#039;t want to hear</description>
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		<title>By: gev pearce</title>
		<link>http://hurryupharry.org/2009/02/06/just-journalism-on-the-reporting-of-the-gaza-conflict/comment-page-1/#comment-300505</link>
		<dc:creator>gev pearce</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Feb 2009 21:20:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Also why has this idiot not sent this report to OFCOM.
I would love to see the evaluation.
Most of you are paranoid nut jobs.
Also what about John Ware&#039;s BBC panorama on Hamas. Was that biased.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Also why has this idiot not sent this report to OFCOM.<br />
I would love to see the evaluation.<br />
Most of you are paranoid nut jobs.<br />
Also what about John Ware&#8217;s BBC panorama on Hamas. Was that biased.</p>
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		<title>By: gev pearce</title>
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		<dc:creator>gev pearce</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Feb 2009 21:15:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just journalism are a bunch of extreme neo conservative paranoid journos.
Cohen one of it&#039;s founders has backed up the views of extreme conservative views such Jonah Goldberg and Frontpage.
Men who have defended apartheid, torture and shoot to kill policy of unarmed illegal Mexican  immigrants.
David T you must come clean.
You are like Cohen a believer in the conservative agenda.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just journalism are a bunch of extreme neo conservative paranoid journos.<br />
Cohen one of it&#8217;s founders has backed up the views of extreme conservative views such Jonah Goldberg and Frontpage.<br />
Men who have defended apartheid, torture and shoot to kill policy of unarmed illegal Mexican  immigrants.<br />
David T you must come clean.<br />
You are like Cohen a believer in the conservative agenda.</p>
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		<title>By: Philo-Semite</title>
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		<dc:creator>Philo-Semite</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Feb 2009 19:26:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Has there been a comparable study of the American media?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Has there been a comparable study of the American media?</p>
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		<title>By: Lbnaz</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lbnaz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Feb 2009 11:30:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Claphammer, for me, of all the objectionable crap in Bowers&#039; editorial, and there was no shortage of objectionable, sanctimonious, bogus and ignorant crap, it was the following passages which I found the most disturbing. 

The shades of Bishop Williams bit (&quot;the suffering of hundreds of thousands of Jewish civilians&quot;) which falsely and insultingly - pace Norman Finkelstein - alleges that Westerners are being prevented from being sympathetic to Palestinians because of guilt over the Shoah:  

&lt;blockquote&gt;When do Westerners stop allowing our shame at our own past racism, which resulted in the suffering and death of hundreds of thousands of Jewish civilians, from preventing us from taking a stand against the suffering and death of Palestinian civilians?&lt;/blockquote&gt;

The bit falsely alleging that Palestinians are privileged to have a Hamas government demonstrating both her woeful ignorance about Hamas and her woeful bigotry of low expectations for Palestinian civil liberties:

&lt;blockquote&gt;Israel would be far better off noting that Hamas gained power because it takes care of the needs of Palestinians. It is a government elected on the promise of continuing to provide what no-one else does.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

The bit that uses Soviet era (Zionist imperialism and Zionist colonialism) and libelous (apartheid) sloganeering (which I&#039;m not sure Bowers even comprehends) to promote, or boost the discriminatory BDS campaign which has repeatedly failed:

&lt;blockquote&gt;There is a growing international “boycott, divestment and sanctions” (BDS) campaign against Israel’s apartheid system, as ordinary citizens position themselves against Zionist colonialism.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

And last, but not least, the bit which - pace Walt, Mearsheimer and Counterpunch - falsely alleges that on behalf of some unnamed collective &quot;we&quot;, Bowers was in some mystifying way coerced to write that she and &quot;we&quot; aren&#039;t antisemites, because of a nefarious Canadian and American pro Israel lobby and that this is what she, as an owner and editor of a newspaper, finds to be &quot;one of the most irritating things about writing about the war in Gaza&quot;:

&lt;blockquote&gt;And obviously, and despite the power of the pro-Israel lobby in Canada and the US (evidenced, in part, by the necessity for the irritating length of this introduction)&lt;/blockquote&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Claphammer, for me, of all the objectionable crap in Bowers&#8217; editorial, and there was no shortage of objectionable, sanctimonious, bogus and ignorant crap, it was the following passages which I found the most disturbing. </p>
<p>The shades of Bishop Williams bit (&#8220;the suffering of hundreds of thousands of Jewish civilians&#8221;) which falsely and insultingly &#8211; pace Norman Finkelstein &#8211; alleges that Westerners are being prevented from being sympathetic to Palestinians because of guilt over the Shoah:  </p>
<blockquote><p>When do Westerners stop allowing our shame at our own past racism, which resulted in the suffering and death of hundreds of thousands of Jewish civilians, from preventing us from taking a stand against the suffering and death of Palestinian civilians?</p></blockquote>
<p>The bit falsely alleging that Palestinians are privileged to have a Hamas government demonstrating both her woeful ignorance about Hamas and her woeful bigotry of low expectations for Palestinian civil liberties:</p>
<blockquote><p>Israel would be far better off noting that Hamas gained power because it takes care of the needs of Palestinians. It is a government elected on the promise of continuing to provide what no-one else does.</p></blockquote>
<p>The bit that uses Soviet era (Zionist imperialism and Zionist colonialism) and libelous (apartheid) sloganeering (which I&#8217;m not sure Bowers even comprehends) to promote, or boost the discriminatory BDS campaign which has repeatedly failed:</p>
<blockquote><p>There is a growing international “boycott, divestment and sanctions” (BDS) campaign against Israel’s apartheid system, as ordinary citizens position themselves against Zionist colonialism.</p></blockquote>
<p>And last, but not least, the bit which &#8211; pace Walt, Mearsheimer and Counterpunch &#8211; falsely alleges that on behalf of some unnamed collective &#8220;we&#8221;, Bowers was in some mystifying way coerced to write that she and &#8220;we&#8221; aren&#8217;t antisemites, because of a nefarious Canadian and American pro Israel lobby and that this is what she, as an owner and editor of a newspaper, finds to be &#8220;one of the most irritating things about writing about the war in Gaza&#8221;:</p>
<blockquote><p>And obviously, and despite the power of the pro-Israel lobby in Canada and the US (evidenced, in part, by the necessity for the irritating length of this introduction)</p></blockquote>
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		<title>By: Nearly Oxfordian</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nearly Oxfordian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Feb 2009 09:28:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;Similarly accusations of bias against journalists by extreme partisans of one side and single-issue pressure groups don’t impress me.&lt;/i&gt;

Well, I am not impressed by the huffing and puffing of people so obviously biased as you are - people who don&#039;t allow documented facts to stand in the way of their hysterical propaganda.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Similarly accusations of bias against journalists by extreme partisans of one side and single-issue pressure groups don’t impress me.</i></p>
<p>Well, I am not impressed by the huffing and puffing of people so obviously biased as you are &#8211; people who don&#8217;t allow documented facts to stand in the way of their hysterical propaganda.</p>
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		<title>By: Expat</title>
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		<dc:creator>Expat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Feb 2009 08:54:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>‘I’m struck by the constant Israeli message that ‘any other country in the world would do the same’. Would they?

Well I&#039;m darned sure of how the Yookay would react: If the rockets were landing anywhere north of Watford Gap or any of the chavvy areas of London, there would be a deathly media silence and if the natives dared complain they would be swiftly condemned as racist scum. If, however, the rockets were endangering the Islington types they would do what they did in the last war, pile their kids and themselves on a boat to a safe, faraway country and leave the lower orders to die on their own.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>‘I’m struck by the constant Israeli message that ‘any other country in the world would do the same’. Would they?</p>
<p>Well I&#8217;m darned sure of how the Yookay would react: If the rockets were landing anywhere north of Watford Gap or any of the chavvy areas of London, there would be a deathly media silence and if the natives dared complain they would be swiftly condemned as racist scum. If, however, the rockets were endangering the Islington types they would do what they did in the last war, pile their kids and themselves on a boat to a safe, faraway country and leave the lower orders to die on their own.</p>
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		<title>By: Clap Hammer</title>
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		<dc:creator>Clap Hammer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Feb 2009 06:09:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Lbnaz

&lt;i&gt;There is a growing international “boycott, divestment and sanctions” (BDS) campaign against Israel’s apartheid system, as ordinary citizens position themselves against Zionist colonialism. Meanwhile OUR government has shamefully blamed this war on Hamas.&lt;/i&gt;

This exposes the complete biasness of the writer of this article.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lbnaz</p>
<p><i>There is a growing international “boycott, divestment and sanctions” (BDS) campaign against Israel’s apartheid system, as ordinary citizens position themselves against Zionist colonialism. Meanwhile OUR government has shamefully blamed this war on Hamas.</i></p>
<p>This exposes the complete biasness of the writer of this article.</p>
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		<title>By: Lbnaz</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lbnaz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Feb 2009 03:16:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;Otherwise, I’d simply wish the writer of this editorial that s/he will have a chance to live under a regime that takes care of his/her needs as well as this writer believes Hamas takes care of the needs of the people in Gaza.&lt;/i&gt;

Thanks Petra, I was aware of the bogus quote and the NY Times correction after publishing Khalidi&#039;s citation of it. It seems to me that Bowers&#039; egregious sanctimony, her conviction, nay faith that nothing could possibly be worse than US or Zionist Imperialism and her bigotry of low expectations for Palestinian civil liberties, shields her from ever considering the possibility of her actually living under a regime like Hamas and what it really would be like for her.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Otherwise, I’d simply wish the writer of this editorial that s/he will have a chance to live under a regime that takes care of his/her needs as well as this writer believes Hamas takes care of the needs of the people in Gaza.</i></p>
<p>Thanks Petra, I was aware of the bogus quote and the NY Times correction after publishing Khalidi&#8217;s citation of it. It seems to me that Bowers&#8217; egregious sanctimony, her conviction, nay faith that nothing could possibly be worse than US or Zionist Imperialism and her bigotry of low expectations for Palestinian civil liberties, shields her from ever considering the possibility of her actually living under a regime like Hamas and what it really would be like for her.</p>
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		<title>By: PetraMB</title>
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		<dc:creator>PetraMB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Feb 2009 22:39:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>LBnaz--the Yaalon quote is spread by Khalidi; most recently, he tried it in the NYTimes, which was forced to acknowledge that it can&#039;t be sourced, i.e. it is fabricated. Details here:
http://www.camera.org/index.asp?x_context=2&amp;x_outlet=35&amp;x_article=1587
and some more commentary on Khalidi&#039;s NYT-article here:
http://blog.z-word.com/2009/02/what-you-dont-know-about-rashid-khalidi/
Otherwise, I&#039;d simply wish the writer of this editorial that s/he will have a chance to live under a regime that takes care of his/her needs as well as this writer believes Hamas takes care of the needs of the people in Gaza.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>LBnaz&#8211;the Yaalon quote is spread by Khalidi; most recently, he tried it in the NYTimes, which was forced to acknowledge that it can&#8217;t be sourced, i.e. it is fabricated. Details here:<br />
<a href="http://www.camera.org/index.asp?x_context=2&amp;x_outlet=35&amp;x_article=1587" rel="nofollow">http://www.camera.org/index.asp?x_context=2&amp;x_outlet=35&amp;x_article=1587</a><br />
and some more commentary on Khalidi&#8217;s NYT-article here:<br />
<a href="http://blog.z-word.com/2009/02/what-you-dont-know-about-rashid-khalidi/" rel="nofollow">http://blog.z-word.com/2009/02/what-you-dont-know-about-rashid-khalidi/</a><br />
Otherwise, I&#8217;d simply wish the writer of this editorial that s/he will have a chance to live under a regime that takes care of his/her needs as well as this writer believes Hamas takes care of the needs of the people in Gaza.</p>
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		<title>By: Alcuin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alcuin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Feb 2009 22:10:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bowen never entertained the possibility that the film which &quot;showed a young Palestinian father kissing his dead baby son goodbye&quot;, had been staged by Hamas, after all Bowen&#039;s is just the sort of reaction they aim for. I expect that should anyone have suggested it to him, his reaction would have been highly emotional, and not the rational consideration of the possibility that he had been duped. Such was the reaction of Charles Enderlin when powerful evidence was presented that the film he endorsed of the &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.theaugeanstables.com/al-durah-affair-the-dossier/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Al Durah shooting&lt;/a&gt; was in fact &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t_B1H-1opys&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Pallywood&lt;/a&gt; at its most egregious.

&lt;i&gt;Gaza&#039;s &quot;overwhelmed&quot; hospitals&lt;/i&gt; (Bowen)

Except that they were not. The Rafah hospital had plenty of space, and Hamas prevented any wounded being moved to Israeli or Egyptian hospitals, where better treatment was available. Bowen is a f***ing disgrace. The trouble is, so are nearly all the rest. If it is raw facts untainted by Hamas distortions or anti-Israel sentiments, you can trust the Jerusalem Post, &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.tomgrossmedia.com/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Tom Gross&lt;/a&gt;, &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.michaeltotten.com/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Michael Totten&lt;/a&gt;, &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.theaugeanstables.com/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Richard Landes&lt;/a&gt;, &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.pierrerehov.com/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Pierre Rehov&lt;/a&gt;, Harry&#039;s Place, and very few others.

Good for HP in keeping up the pressure on this issue.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bowen never entertained the possibility that the film which &#8220;showed a young Palestinian father kissing his dead baby son goodbye&#8221;, had been staged by Hamas, after all Bowen&#8217;s is just the sort of reaction they aim for. I expect that should anyone have suggested it to him, his reaction would have been highly emotional, and not the rational consideration of the possibility that he had been duped. Such was the reaction of Charles Enderlin when powerful evidence was presented that the film he endorsed of the <a href="http://www.theaugeanstables.com/al-durah-affair-the-dossier/" rel="nofollow">Al Durah shooting</a> was in fact <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t_B1H-1opys" rel="nofollow">Pallywood</a> at its most egregious.</p>
<p><i>Gaza&#8217;s &#8220;overwhelmed&#8221; hospitals</i> (Bowen)</p>
<p>Except that they were not. The Rafah hospital had plenty of space, and Hamas prevented any wounded being moved to Israeli or Egyptian hospitals, where better treatment was available. Bowen is a f***ing disgrace. The trouble is, so are nearly all the rest. If it is raw facts untainted by Hamas distortions or anti-Israel sentiments, you can trust the Jerusalem Post, <a href="http://www.tomgrossmedia.com/" rel="nofollow">Tom Gross</a>, <a href="http://www.michaeltotten.com/" rel="nofollow">Michael Totten</a>, <a href="http://www.theaugeanstables.com/" rel="nofollow">Richard Landes</a>, <a href="http://www.pierrerehov.com/" rel="nofollow">Pierre Rehov</a>, Harry&#8217;s Place, and very few others.</p>
<p>Good for HP in keeping up the pressure on this issue.</p>
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