Yes, the usual pathetic running-away trick of all cowards when their bluff is called.

Muffin rants about ‘ad hominem’. This is the sad individual who called me ‘pond life’. Now he whines when he is on the receiving end, like all cowardly bullies.

I am absolutely happy to engage with individuals who disagree with me. Actually, I am eager to do so (and hopefully given an evidence of this on this and other threads). But this assumes minimal standards of behaviour (yes, from both sides) and a readiness to engage with arguments and ideas, rather than being abusive or using ad hominem arguments. Thus, you have joined a list of individuals, from TheIrie all the way to Nearly Oxfordian, with whom I am not willing to enter into any conversation. Whatsoever. Whether they agree with me or not.

The muffin man is seated at the table in the laboratory of the utility muffin
Research kitchen… reaching for an oversized chrome spoon he gathers an
Intimate quantity of dried muffin remnants and brushing his scapular aside
Procceds to dump these inside of his shirt…
He turns to us and speaks:

Some people like cupcakes better. I for one care less for them!

Arrogantly twisting the sterile canvas snoot of a fully charged icing
Anointment utensil he poots forths a quarter-ounce green rosette (oh ah yuk
Yuk… lets try that again…!) he poots forth a quarter-ounce green rosette
Near the summit of a dense but radiant muffin of his own design.
Later he says:

Some people… some people like cupcakes exclusively, while myself, I say
There is naught nor ought there be nothing so exalted on the face of gods grey
Earth as that prince of foods… the muffin!

Girl you thought he was a man
But he was a muffin
He hung around till you found
That he didnt know nuthin

Girl you thought he was a man
But he only was a-puffin
No cries is heard in the night
As a result of him stuffin

Just today, saw a copy of Time magazine from the week before Obama’s innaguration. It’s cover story proclaimed that Israel could not defeat Hamas and was in more danger then ever before its history. This convinced me that Israel is in good shape and will be around long after Hamas has followed its Nazis and Communist friends on to the scrapeheap of history since anything Time magazine says with such assurance is bound to be wrong or at least greatly exxagerated.

1 Not hitting Hamas will only encourage them to increase their rockets

2 The rockets are getting better, soon even Tel Aviv would be in range. That cannot be allowed to happen – why wait until it does?

3 As Khaled Abu Toameh has said, there is absolutely no point in talking to Hamas, and Fatah is little better. I do wish Blair, Brown, Clinton, Moon and Haig would get that through their heads

3 Israel had had enough. This is not about morality or logic, they (the whole bloody country) has had enough of this behaviour.

4 Nature has equipped us with anger for good reasons. There really are times when it is more effective to get mad, not to get even, and this is one of them.

5 Fatah in the West Bank got this last message loud and clear. They at least have a vestige of rationality, and one of the things restraining them is the thought of Israel’s fury in Ramallah and Nablus.

6 You make moral equivalence between a democracy which wants peace, and a bunch of ruthless fanatical thugs who would throw their children, wives and grandmothers into Saddam’s shredder if they thought it would drag a Jew in after them.

7 Ruthlessness works:

The story is told that, during Lebanon’s civil war (1975–90), four Soviet diplomats were kidnapped by a terrorist group. Two days later its leader received a box containing the testicles of his son – and a warning from the Russians: “Don’t ever bother our people again.”

The Soviets’ reprisal was ruthless but effective. The three surviving hostages were released unharmed and no more Soviets were kidnapped in Lebanon.

Muffin, you really have not absorbed the mood of Israel – all the more surprising for someone who was there. I’ll say it again: They have had enough. Shimon Peres is one of the most moderate af all Israel’s leaders, listen to him here, and you just might get it.

Hi Mr. Muffin, without any cheap jibes, but without conceding even a centimeter to your baseless allegation that because I’ve been citing points raised by Khaled Abu Toameh, both he and I now are being accused by you of “drawing strawmen arguments and arguments that don’t elicit much respect” , I nevertheless will ask you politely:

Will you kindly substantiate your allegation that most of the 1300 people killed during Cast Lead never have been Hamas operatives or armed combatants and second, kindly explain who among the corrupt and unaccountable Arafat/Abu Mazen old guard, the genocidally intentional Hamas, or the muqawama mujahideen in the PRC, PIJ, Al Aqsa Brigade, and various Al Qaeda type groups, would you (Muffin) suggest Israel negotiate with on the lines of the Zionist conceived Geneva Accords at the present time?

LOL.

How about answering this point, which you have made it your speciality to run a mile from (always with the same cowardly excuses):

a guy who promotes the unsubstantiable blood libel that the IDF killed more women and children in Cast Lead than armed belligerents

This is not a ‘cheap jibe’ or any of your other mendacious and yellow-bellied excuses. It’s a statement about the lie you are promoting.

So which Palestinian factions of the ones I mention above would Muffin suggest Israel negotiate with on the lines of the Zionist conceived Geneva Accords at the present time?

I understand, Lbnaz, that this question is directed to me. Well, I hate to sound pompous, but if you want to engage in any sort of discussion with me, you have to do so without cheap jibes, name calling, drawing straw men and “arguments” that, frankly, don’t elicit much respect. Or at least not enough respect to engage with you.

Of course Muffin, the Arab and Muslim world, and the Palestinian factions just can’t contain themselves with enthusiasm for the Geneva Accords, that’s why they bring it up so often. Meanwhile Khaled Abu Toameh tells us that if Israel was to cede the WB entirely and evict all Jews from living in the WB at the present time when Palestinian leadership consists of either the corrupt and unaccountable Arafat/Abu Mazen old guard, the genocidally intentional Hamas, or the muqawama mujahideen in the PRC, PIJ, Al Aqsa Brigade, and various Al Qaeda type groups, Ben Gurion Airport would have to be shut down zone due to snipers and Tel Aviv would come under missile, mortar and rocket fire. But why listen to a damn good journalist like Abu Toameh when Muffin – a guy who promotes the unsubstantiable blood libel that the IDF killed more women and children in Cast Lead than armed belligerents – knows so much better? So which Palestinian factions of the ones I mention above would Muffin suggest Israel negotiate with on the lines of the Zionist conceived Geneva Accords at the present time?