Comments on: Stephen Sizer cites (another) Holocaust denier

By: Cath

Cath — Sun, 28 Jun 2009 22:04:48 +0000

I’m asking “Harry’s” to please try to get this link removed or less prominent from my goggle name. There is no reason why you should but I’m requesting it anyway in the hope someone may feel it has pissed me off for long enough attached to the top of my goggle profile as anticipated and the point has been made.
It seems trivial and it is in the wider picture of world problems and concerns- but it really isn’t representing the best (I accept that’s my fault for hasty/reactive blogging in an open forum.)
Doing this won’t warrant a return or the dive-bombing in on threads here or elsewhere.

By: gordon-bennett

gordon-bennett — Wed, 04 Feb 2009 23:16:25 +0000

@socialrepublican

Your post divides into 3 parts. Each part is rubbish and reeks of de haut en bas.

1. It may well be that all the entities you cited were/are against the present Capitalist economic system. However, my point about the nazis own declaration also included that they said they are socialists. To say we ARE this and we AREN’T that is more than you have attempted to answer about.

2. The fact that the rest of the TFP site had many other views doesn’t of itself invalidate the facts quoted and sourced in the page I referenced. This would be like me saying that you are a lefty sympathiser and therefore everything you say is BS (NB I am not saying that everything you say is NOT BS). However, I didn’t read the rest of that site and so I will extract the relevant page and update it. Thank you for that.

3. ‘I still dont understand why lefties are indulgent towards communist history but so earnest about showing their need to disassociate from their nazi fellow travellers’ is not about historical accuracy. What I am saying is that socialists are dead keen to shout “Nazi!” at anyone who disagrees with them while apparently unaware of the mote in their own eye – their fellow-travellers’ record on murder. In one word, hypocrisy.

One extra point: you add that “Murderous ideology is not the monopoly of any political stripe”. However, it very nearly almost is when you consider the multi-millions on the socialist side and a few thousand on the capitalist side.

By: Edward

Edward — Tue, 03 Feb 2009 22:52:18 +0000

Sizer never responds to any criticism either. In fact he apparently would like to be be able to use the law to shut critics up. Of course he can’t since the law is on the side of his critics.

By: Edward

Edward — Tue, 03 Feb 2009 22:28:25 +0000

Cath

Sizer is an antisemite (“Zionism is a form of racism”) who cloaks his prejudice in Biblical references. Mordechai is doing a public service by exposing him.

You say “all posts are negative”. No doubt Sizer is loved by his Mum but what else is there positive to say about him?

By: Richard

Richard — Tue, 03 Feb 2009 21:47:21 +0000

Cath. I’m still a bit confused. So not sure if it will help but would it help if I deleted your last name from ur Engage piece. As I say I’m not quite sure but if it will help then I’ll search for your piece and try and edit it (we’ve moved to wordpress but I preume it can still be edited). If you want then u can contact me thru the contact facility on Engage.

By: Mordechai

Mordechai — Tue, 03 Feb 2009 21:20:30 +0000

Also, Cath, Stephen Sizer’s book is extremely negative about Christians – in his book he attacks all Christian Zionists, mainstream American Christianity, many significant figures of English Protestantism, a sovereign state, Messianic Jews, and the Scofield Bible. Based on your logic, Sizer is also guilty of negative representation of many people.

By: Mordechai

Mordechai — Tue, 03 Feb 2009 18:25:54 +0000

Also, Cath, I fail to see the problem – I’ve deleted the post like you’ve requested. Harry’s Place linking to Seismic Shock shouldn’t affect you then. If your name is still coming up in google searches then talk to Google. I also reject the accusation that I’m somehow anti-Christian – especially considering the number of positive comments I’ve received from Jews and Christians alike about Seismic Shock.

By: Mordechai

Mordechai — Tue, 03 Feb 2009 18:11:13 +0000

What do you mean there’s no engagement? Comments are totally open on Seismic Shock, unlike Stephen Sizer’s blog which doesn’t allow comments.

By: cath palasz

cath palasz — Tue, 03 Feb 2009 17:58:11 +0000

I really don’t think it is called for to attach this to my name.If the site was that irritated by what was said they could have stopped me posting.It will be permanently attached to my name and as is clear there is an issue with that.
As for the site objected to in thread- it primarily posts on Stephen and all posts are negative.There is no engagement- just negative representation of a person- no chance for change/healing .Plus there is the fact of Christian against Jew and vice versa. A site that has no value for religion isn’t going to care less about this, I do.It’s my last posting and rest assured I won’t return again.

By: cath palasz

cath palasz — Tue, 03 Feb 2009 13:01:15 +0000

David T or whoever- thanks for the additional profiling under my name- linking to this article on Stephen.This piece is effectively a smear in my view, I’m not saying the rest of his pieces are.
Reasons- timing after the outrage of last week,framing,heading by picture, mentioning of Bishop Williamson etc..,the fact they are both clergy.Public take on it – rent-a-mob.I get that everyone thinks this is an awful suggestion.
And for what it is worth -I share concerns around Stephen’s theology and how it relates to Jews and what it is saying about Judaism & Israel and the Christian antisemitism present in it.But that’s not the issue here.
Would you like to add that to my google profile- thanks.