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	<title>Comments on: On how Apartheid South Africa was &#8220;unfairly demonized&#8221; &#8212; like Israel</title>
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		<title>By: Word</title>
		<link>http://hurryupharry.org/2009/01/28/on-how-apartheid-south-africa-was-unfairly-demonized-like-israel/comment-page-2/#comment-385842</link>
		<dc:creator>Word</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Sep 2009 00:34:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This post was amazing, and I love how every attack on Hasbara&#039;s post has not been on his post but rather on Hasbara Buster himself. The fact that peopel have to resort to insults instead of actually criticizing the post shows how good this post is. 

Furthermore, Hasbara Busters post was merely showing what right wing nutjobs that promoted Apartheid believed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This post was amazing, and I love how every attack on Hasbara&#8217;s post has not been on his post but rather on Hasbara Buster himself. The fact that peopel have to resort to insults instead of actually criticizing the post shows how good this post is. </p>
<p>Furthermore, Hasbara Busters post was merely showing what right wing nutjobs that promoted Apartheid believed.</p>
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		<title>By: cebo</title>
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		<dc:creator>cebo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Aug 2009 17:12:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>results of apartheid affected our soviety today</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>results of apartheid affected our soviety today</p>
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		<title>By: adrian</title>
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		<dc:creator>adrian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Aug 2009 13:17:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>mmmmm loved mays south african election results. Didn&#039;t sa  afrikaaners say they were going to resist elections in 94? What happened to that? Right wingers talk tough but always back down when confronted.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>mmmmm loved mays south african election results. Didn&#8217;t sa  afrikaaners say they were going to resist elections in 94? What happened to that? Right wingers talk tough but always back down when confronted.</p>
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		<title>By: FishEagle</title>
		<link>http://hurryupharry.org/2009/01/28/on-how-apartheid-south-africa-was-unfairly-demonized-like-israel/comment-page-2/#comment-298487</link>
		<dc:creator>FishEagle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Feb 2009 13:59:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>D’gr8, for someone that has already been on the receiving end of the media bias, you sure have been gullible, regarding SA.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>D’gr8, for someone that has already been on the receiving end of the media bias, you sure have been gullible, regarding SA.</p>
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		<title>By: FishEagle</title>
		<link>http://hurryupharry.org/2009/01/28/on-how-apartheid-south-africa-was-unfairly-demonized-like-israel/comment-page-2/#comment-298433</link>
		<dc:creator>FishEagle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Feb 2009 12:25:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Also, SA became a net importer of grain for the first time last year.  We always used to be a net exporter.  Our productivity has gone to shit.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Also, SA became a net importer of grain for the first time last year.  We always used to be a net exporter.  Our productivity has gone to shit.</p>
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		<title>By: FishEagle</title>
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		<dc:creator>FishEagle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Feb 2009 12:20:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My response is for D’gr8:

“South Africa is one of the most socially underrated nations in this world.”  Presently we have the highest incident of murders and rapes in the world.  We are 4th on the kidnapping list.  Just look at the facts and forget about your pie in the sky ideals.

“…how in the world would there be no crime problem.”  There are much poorer countries in the world with much lower crime rates.  Every month, if not every week, you can find stories on the net of people being murdered for A CELL PHONE.  The mainstream media does not even bother to report these incidents anymore.  Just the other day an old woman’s jewelry was stolen from her and she was lucky to escape the ordeal alive.  Pity they beat her face to a pulp and tried to bite one of her fingers off to get a stubborn ring that did not come off.

“….that country is in its best state ever.”  Find me one person in SA that has not acknowledged that our education system has reached a crisis situation.  Even the minister admits it.  The health system is gone.  I personally feel it is safer to stay out of the government hospitals if I got sick.  The safety and security minister has acknowledged that crime has spiraled out of control.  People don’t have access to clean water anymore in towns and cities.  Our road systems are busy collapsing.  I work in the government and there are some days that our building’s toilets don’t even work.  That is a first for me!  

“The people there are so obsessed about race.” SA has an affirmative action policy that discriminates against whites, which are in the minority.  AA was designed to uplift minorities and protect them from the majority so it completely defeats the purpose.  Most skilled whites have left just simply because they could.  Why should they have stayed?

“All they need is another party running..”    No liberation movement in Africa has given up power freely yet!

“is therefore irrational to say a country is better off when most of its citizen are at great discontent….” During the apartheid years Africans from all over Africa were streaming over the borders into South Africa to find jobs and a better life.  Now even the guys from the DRC are saying they would rather go home to their war torn country than stay in SA.  

I don’t want to get side tracked because this post was about Israel.  The point is that you may have political ideals that sound very fair and pretty but in the reality you can achieve exactly the opposite of what you set out to do.  I would say the average South African’s basic rights have deteriorated a lot after apartheid.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My response is for D’gr8:</p>
<p>“South Africa is one of the most socially underrated nations in this world.”  Presently we have the highest incident of murders and rapes in the world.  We are 4th on the kidnapping list.  Just look at the facts and forget about your pie in the sky ideals.</p>
<p>“…how in the world would there be no crime problem.”  There are much poorer countries in the world with much lower crime rates.  Every month, if not every week, you can find stories on the net of people being murdered for A CELL PHONE.  The mainstream media does not even bother to report these incidents anymore.  Just the other day an old woman’s jewelry was stolen from her and she was lucky to escape the ordeal alive.  Pity they beat her face to a pulp and tried to bite one of her fingers off to get a stubborn ring that did not come off.</p>
<p>“….that country is in its best state ever.”  Find me one person in SA that has not acknowledged that our education system has reached a crisis situation.  Even the minister admits it.  The health system is gone.  I personally feel it is safer to stay out of the government hospitals if I got sick.  The safety and security minister has acknowledged that crime has spiraled out of control.  People don’t have access to clean water anymore in towns and cities.  Our road systems are busy collapsing.  I work in the government and there are some days that our building’s toilets don’t even work.  That is a first for me!  </p>
<p>“The people there are so obsessed about race.” SA has an affirmative action policy that discriminates against whites, which are in the minority.  AA was designed to uplift minorities and protect them from the majority so it completely defeats the purpose.  Most skilled whites have left just simply because they could.  Why should they have stayed?</p>
<p>“All they need is another party running..”    No liberation movement in Africa has given up power freely yet!</p>
<p>“is therefore irrational to say a country is better off when most of its citizen are at great discontent….” During the apartheid years Africans from all over Africa were streaming over the borders into South Africa to find jobs and a better life.  Now even the guys from the DRC are saying they would rather go home to their war torn country than stay in SA.  </p>
<p>I don’t want to get side tracked because this post was about Israel.  The point is that you may have political ideals that sound very fair and pretty but in the reality you can achieve exactly the opposite of what you set out to do.  I would say the average South African’s basic rights have deteriorated a lot after apartheid.</p>
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		<title>By: D'gr8</title>
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		<dc:creator>D'gr8</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Feb 2009 00:21:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>FishEagle, this one&#039;s for you. How many countries in the world have had such a transition lie South Africa did and still did not have a civil war? South Africa is one of the most socially underrated nations in this world. Its got more than 5 million illegal, unskilled immigrants, how in the world would there be no crime problem? I&#039;ve stayed in a few South African cities and can tell you, apart from the crime, HIV and unemployment amongst the non-whites, that country is in its best state ever. Every problem it has can be fixed by its people if they stand together. The people there are so obsessed about race (more especially the Afrikaners and the ANC government) they are wasting time that should be used to sort themselves out. All they need is another party running as government, and the rest they can solve themselves if they stand together. 

It is therefore irrational to say a country is better off when most of its citizen are at great discontent. Unless there&#039;s a holocaust by the Afrikaner, there&#039;s no way they would have gotten away with Apartheid</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>FishEagle, this one&#8217;s for you. How many countries in the world have had such a transition lie South Africa did and still did not have a civil war? South Africa is one of the most socially underrated nations in this world. Its got more than 5 million illegal, unskilled immigrants, how in the world would there be no crime problem? I&#8217;ve stayed in a few South African cities and can tell you, apart from the crime, HIV and unemployment amongst the non-whites, that country is in its best state ever. Every problem it has can be fixed by its people if they stand together. The people there are so obsessed about race (more especially the Afrikaners and the ANC government) they are wasting time that should be used to sort themselves out. All they need is another party running as government, and the rest they can solve themselves if they stand together. </p>
<p>It is therefore irrational to say a country is better off when most of its citizen are at great discontent. Unless there&#8217;s a holocaust by the Afrikaner, there&#8217;s no way they would have gotten away with Apartheid</p>
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		<title>By: Patrick G</title>
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		<dc:creator>Patrick G</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Jan 2009 23:13:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hasbara Buster

Remember

&quot; It&#039;s better to stay silent and be thought a fool than to open your mouth and remove all doubt &quot;</description>
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<p>Remember</p>
<p>&#8221; It&#8217;s better to stay silent and be thought a fool than to open your mouth and remove all doubt &#8220;</p>
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		<title>By: FishEagle</title>
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		<dc:creator>FishEagle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Jan 2009 20:27:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>HB, yes white South Africans were unfairly singled out for criticism during apartheid.  It actually just showed me how racist the world actually is. It showed me how the world looked down on blacks so much that they were not even willing to engage in criticism.  

Presently the murder rate in SA is 50/day.  The number of rapes has increased to such a level that a woman has a greater chance of being raped than learning to read.  Regardless of the horrific circumstances that have lead to these conditions, human rights have been grossly violated consistently for years.  Where is the world’s criticism now?  

As a South African I see the similarities between Israel and apartheid SA.  I support Israel, just like I support an apartheid system.  

I actually changed after the ANC government was elected when I saw how badly things were deteriorating in my country.  I always used to think apartheid was bad.  Now I see the alternative and I say bring apartheid back!  I fear for my life every day because of crime.  It is just not safe to live here anymore.  It would be much safer for me to live in Israel, which is at war.

I sincerely hope not, but my opinion is that the world is going to fry Israel.  I’ve experienced hatred towards my Afrikaans culture from every single race and/or country on this earth.  It is the one thing I understand.  Believe me, you are next.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>HB, yes white South Africans were unfairly singled out for criticism during apartheid.  It actually just showed me how racist the world actually is. It showed me how the world looked down on blacks so much that they were not even willing to engage in criticism.  </p>
<p>Presently the murder rate in SA is 50/day.  The number of rapes has increased to such a level that a woman has a greater chance of being raped than learning to read.  Regardless of the horrific circumstances that have lead to these conditions, human rights have been grossly violated consistently for years.  Where is the world’s criticism now?  </p>
<p>As a South African I see the similarities between Israel and apartheid SA.  I support Israel, just like I support an apartheid system.  </p>
<p>I actually changed after the ANC government was elected when I saw how badly things were deteriorating in my country.  I always used to think apartheid was bad.  Now I see the alternative and I say bring apartheid back!  I fear for my life every day because of crime.  It is just not safe to live here anymore.  It would be much safer for me to live in Israel, which is at war.</p>
<p>I sincerely hope not, but my opinion is that the world is going to fry Israel.  I’ve experienced hatred towards my Afrikaans culture from every single race and/or country on this earth.  It is the one thing I understand.  Believe me, you are next.</p>
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		<title>By: comstock</title>
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		<dc:creator>comstock</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Jan 2009 01:48:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>One of the central myths of the colonisation of South Africa by the Whites was that it was an empty land which Africans had only ......................................................................................................
Greenstein peddles the same humourless romantic myth, virtually all countries have a tri layer of indigenous peoples who were trashed by the preceding layer, Proto Malays displace Orang Asli etc. this particularly noticeable even today in the Muslim lands. In biological terms the land was empty!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One of the central myths of the colonisation of South Africa by the Whites was that it was an empty land which Africans had only &#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;<br />
Greenstein peddles the same humourless romantic myth, virtually all countries have a tri layer of indigenous peoples who were trashed by the preceding layer, Proto Malays displace Orang Asli etc. this particularly noticeable even today in the Muslim lands. In biological terms the land was empty!</p>
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