Comments on: A “decisive loss for Israel”? http://hurryupharry.org/2009/01/26/a-%e2%80%9cdecisive-loss-for-israel%e2%80%9d/ Liberty, if it means anything, is the right to tell people what they don't want to hear Fri, 10 Feb 2012 07:55:39 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: Josh Scholar http://hurryupharry.org/2009/01/26/a-%e2%80%9cdecisive-loss-for-israel%e2%80%9d/comment-page-2/#comment-294269 Josh Scholar Tue, 27 Jan 2009 21:15:35 +0000 http://www.hurryupharry.org/?p=12189#comment-294269 Also since my analysis shows refutes your "constant drumbeat" of "This carnage will not not make anyone more safe - Israelis or Palestinians, " and you refuse to address my refutation, I have to conclude that you are a deliberate liar. You can not defend your statement and refuse to try. Also since my analysis shows refutes your “constant drumbeat” of “This carnage will not not make anyone more safe – Israelis or Palestinians, ” and you refuse to address my refutation, I have to conclude that you are a deliberate liar. You can not defend your statement and refuse to try.

]]> By: Josh Scholar http://hurryupharry.org/2009/01/26/a-%e2%80%9cdecisive-loss-for-israel%e2%80%9d/comment-page-2/#comment-294174 Josh Scholar Tue, 27 Jan 2009 17:46:29 +0000 http://www.hurryupharry.org/?p=12189#comment-294174 <i>I fucking bother addressing yours, Josh.</i> So to sum up, you denounce my logic without ever addressing it in the slightest and when this is repeatedly pointed out you write a single, completely incoherent and meaningless sentence. As I said, one wonders if you're capable of thought. I fucking bother addressing yours, Josh.

So to sum up, you denounce my logic without ever addressing it in the slightest and when this is repeatedly pointed out you write a single, completely incoherent and meaningless sentence. As I said, one wonders if you’re capable of thought.

]]> By: Benjamin http://hurryupharry.org/2009/01/26/a-%e2%80%9cdecisive-loss-for-israel%e2%80%9d/comment-page-2/#comment-294008 Benjamin Tue, 27 Jan 2009 13:12:21 +0000 http://www.hurryupharry.org/?p=12189#comment-294008 Yes, I was making a separate point. I fucking bother addressing yours, Josh. Yes, I was making a separate point. I fucking bother addressing yours, Josh.

]]> By: sackcloth and ashes http://hurryupharry.org/2009/01/26/a-%e2%80%9cdecisive-loss-for-israel%e2%80%9d/comment-page-2/#comment-293952 sackcloth and ashes Tue, 27 Jan 2009 10:51:14 +0000 http://www.hurryupharry.org/?p=12189#comment-293952 Well, I must admit the 'Guardian' still has some standards, because they refused to give Benjamin Mackie a job. Well, I must admit the ‘Guardian’ still has some standards, because they refused to give Benjamin Mackie a job.

]]> By: Josh Scholar http://hurryupharry.org/2009/01/26/a-%e2%80%9cdecisive-loss-for-israel%e2%80%9d/comment-page-2/#comment-293880 Josh Scholar Tue, 27 Jan 2009 05:32:57 +0000 http://www.hurryupharry.org/?p=12189#comment-293880 None of what you're saying is at all relevant to my analysis. Shrug. One wonders if you're capable of thought. None of what you’re saying is at all relevant to my analysis. Shrug. One wonders if you’re capable of thought.

]]> By: Benjamin http://hurryupharry.org/2009/01/26/a-%e2%80%9cdecisive-loss-for-israel%e2%80%9d/comment-page-2/#comment-293872 Benjamin Tue, 27 Jan 2009 04:56:12 +0000 http://www.hurryupharry.org/?p=12189#comment-293872 Josh Yeah, yeah, I know the mantra. We keep hearing what this or that is going to do to Israel, if this or that had this or that, or did this and that. We keep hearing how terrible those rotten Muslim are; but year in, year out, it's the Israelis that kill and destroy much more. Piles of dead Palestinians and rubble pile up around Israel. Israel destroys swathes and the EU helpfully puts up the buildings again for the Israelis to demolish a few years later, as well known far leftist Chris Patten wryly notes today in the Guardian. Perhaps its one grand construction industry scam. http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2009/jan/27/gaza-israel-hamas-eu-us Israel's absurd behaviour is perfect for political satire. Josh

Yeah, yeah, I know the mantra. We keep hearing what this or that is going to do to Israel, if this or that had this or that, or did this and that. We keep hearing how terrible those rotten Muslim are; but year in, year out, it’s the Israelis that kill and destroy much more.

Piles of dead Palestinians and rubble pile up around Israel. Israel destroys swathes and the EU helpfully puts up the buildings again for the Israelis to demolish a few years later, as well known far leftist Chris Patten wryly notes today in the Guardian. Perhaps its one grand construction industry scam.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2009/jan/27/gaza-israel-hamas-eu-us

Israel’s absurd behaviour is perfect for political satire.

]]> By: Josh Scholar http://hurryupharry.org/2009/01/26/a-%e2%80%9cdecisive-loss-for-israel%e2%80%9d/comment-page-2/#comment-293869 Josh Scholar Tue, 27 Jan 2009 04:23:40 +0000 http://www.hurryupharry.org/?p=12189#comment-293869 <i>This carnage will not not make anyone more safe...</i> Please reread my post where I talked about the amount of violence that Hamas will be willing to inflict on Israel in the future, both as an equilibrium and as the maximum - the spectacular terrorist attacks that are possible. Seriously, you seem to be entirely lacking in the ability to analyze the situation properly. You would fail a class in game theory. This carnage will not not make anyone more safe…

Please reread my post where I talked about the amount of violence that Hamas will be willing to inflict on Israel in the future, both as an equilibrium and as the maximum – the spectacular terrorist attacks that are possible.

Seriously, you seem to be entirely lacking in the ability to analyze the situation properly. You would fail a class in game theory.

]]> By: Josh Scholar http://hurryupharry.org/2009/01/26/a-%e2%80%9cdecisive-loss-for-israel%e2%80%9d/comment-page-2/#comment-293868 Josh Scholar Tue, 27 Jan 2009 04:17:04 +0000 http://www.hurryupharry.org/?p=12189#comment-293868 <i>At HP, and out of the mouths of Judaic clerics and Israeli politicians, there are always calculations that the next slaughter, the next collective punishment, will being the silence of the graveyard to enable Israel can carry on building on the West Bank undisturbed.</i> Oh those poor Nazis, sent to the silence of the grave simply for those home-made firecrackers, the V-1. Has Britain apologized for that horrible war crime yet? At HP, and out of the mouths of Judaic clerics and Israeli politicians, there are always calculations that the next slaughter, the next collective punishment, will being the silence of the graveyard to enable Israel can carry on building on the West Bank undisturbed.

Oh those poor Nazis, sent to the silence of the grave simply for those home-made firecrackers, the V-1. Has Britain apologized for that horrible war crime yet?

]]> By: Teller Of Truths http://hurryupharry.org/2009/01/26/a-%e2%80%9cdecisive-loss-for-israel%e2%80%9d/comment-page-2/#comment-293867 Teller Of Truths Tue, 27 Jan 2009 04:09:36 +0000 http://www.hurryupharry.org/?p=12189#comment-293867 Dan posted: "Still, while some may say Hamas didn’t exactly win, it is safe to say Israel definitely lost" Yup Israel lost. In fact it has lost all of it's wars according to that article since it hasn't achieved 'peace' with all it's neighbors. It certainly lost the 2006 Hezbollah war and its deterrence value. We know that to be true because during the Gaza War Hezbollah launched thousands of it's missles against Northern Israel. It's just that the Israeli controlled press throughout the world was afraid to publish that story. Sleep well ... Mommy will tell you another Fairy Tale tonight! Dan posted:

“Still, while some may say Hamas didn’t exactly win, it is safe to say
Israel definitely lost”

Yup Israel lost. In fact it has lost all of it’s wars according to that article since it hasn’t achieved ‘peace’ with all it’s neighbors.

It certainly lost the 2006 Hezbollah war and its deterrence value.
We know that to be true because during the Gaza War Hezbollah launched thousands of it’s missles against Northern Israel. It’s just
that the Israeli controlled press throughout the world was afraid to
publish that story.

Sleep well … Mommy will tell you another Fairy Tale tonight!

]]> By: Benjamin http://hurryupharry.org/2009/01/26/a-%e2%80%9cdecisive-loss-for-israel%e2%80%9d/comment-page-2/#comment-293843 Benjamin Tue, 27 Jan 2009 01:43:08 +0000 http://www.hurryupharry.org/?p=12189#comment-293843 <i>but the Israeli public will always vote for less danger rather than more.</i> This carnage will not not make anyone more safe - Israelis or Palestinians. Israel continues to kill Palestinians in large numbers and then goes back to square one. But if Barak kills Palestinians his and the Labour Party's approval ratings go up. When he stops, Labour's ratings sink. At HP, and out of the mouths of Judaic clerics and Israeli politicians, there are always calculations that the next slaughter, the next collective punishment, will being the silence of the graveyard to enable Israel can carry on building on the West Bank undisturbed. Israel does not require peace - it requires silence. but the Israeli public will always vote for less danger rather than more.

This carnage will not not make anyone more safe – Israelis or Palestinians. Israel continues to kill Palestinians in large numbers and then goes back to square one. But if Barak kills Palestinians his and the Labour Party’s approval ratings go up. When he stops, Labour’s ratings sink.

At HP, and out of the mouths of Judaic clerics and Israeli politicians, there are always calculations that the next slaughter, the next collective punishment, will being the silence of the graveyard to enable Israel can carry on building on the West Bank undisturbed.

Israel does not require peace – it requires silence.

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