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	<description>Liberty, if it means anything, is the right to tell people what they don&#039;t want to hear</description>
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		<title>By: Nick (ex South Africa)</title>
		<link>http://hurryupharry.org/2009/01/21/hamas-seeks-collaborators/comment-page-2/#comment-290767</link>
		<dc:creator>Nick (ex South Africa)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Jan 2009 00:16:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Is that good for Israel in the long run?&lt;/blockquote&gt;Dunno.....if the ceasefire now in effect holds, yes, definitely. It puts the Zionist entity in a better position than before Cast Lead. If the Hamas ceasefire does not hold - Israel has lost little.

Regardless, Israel has demonstrate that if you repeatedly send your kiddies out to pull the tail of the neighbor&#039;s pitbull, sooner or later it&#039;s liable to turn around and bite their face off. 

This has changed the &#039;facts on the ground&#039;. Hamas may reconsider upping the ante with more military grade rockets.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Is that good for Israel in the long run?</p></blockquote>
<p>Dunno&#8230;..if the ceasefire now in effect holds, yes, definitely. It puts the Zionist entity in a better position than before Cast Lead. If the Hamas ceasefire does not hold &#8211; Israel has lost little.</p>
<p>Regardless, Israel has demonstrate that if you repeatedly send your kiddies out to pull the tail of the neighbor&#8217;s pitbull, sooner or later it&#8217;s liable to turn around and bite their face off. </p>
<p>This has changed the &#8216;facts on the ground&#8217;. Hamas may reconsider upping the ante with more military grade rockets.</p>
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		<title>By: Newman Oppenheim</title>
		<link>http://hurryupharry.org/2009/01/21/hamas-seeks-collaborators/comment-page-2/#comment-290672</link>
		<dc:creator>Newman Oppenheim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Jan 2009 20:25:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Guys, if we are to live side by side with our semite cousins, the Palestinians, then surely the disproportionate might exercised over the past 3 weeks will not have helped the &#039;peace&#039; process thus create more disgruntled Palestinians vowing to support Hamas. 

Is that good for Israel in the long run?

No matter how much we hate to talk about history. 
Let&#039;s face it, we did take over their country in the first place?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Guys, if we are to live side by side with our semite cousins, the Palestinians, then surely the disproportionate might exercised over the past 3 weeks will not have helped the &#8216;peace&#8217; process thus create more disgruntled Palestinians vowing to support Hamas. </p>
<p>Is that good for Israel in the long run?</p>
<p>No matter how much we hate to talk about history.<br />
Let&#8217;s face it, we did take over their country in the first place?</p>
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		<title>By: MITNAGED</title>
		<link>http://hurryupharry.org/2009/01/21/hamas-seeks-collaborators/comment-page-2/#comment-290647</link>
		<dc:creator>MITNAGED</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Jan 2009 18:50:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This today from Corriere della Serra via Ma&#039;ariv

&quot;Corriere della Serra Thursday quoted a doctor at Shifa Hospital in Gaza City saying that, despite Hamas and UN claims, most of those killed in Gaza were young men who were members of terror groups.

&quot;The number of deaths was between 500-600...most were young men between 17 and 23 who were recruited into the ranks of Hamas, which sent them to be slaughtered,&quot; he said.

&quot; Journalist Lorenzo Cremonesi confirmed that only 600 people were killed, and not 1,300 as was widely reported, based on hospital visits and discussions with families of the victims.

&quot;It was strange that the non-governmental organizations, including Western ones, repeated the number without checking, but the truth will come to light in the end,&quot; said the doctor.

&quot;It&#039;s like what happened in Jenin in 2002,&quot; he said. &quot;At the beginning they spoke of 500 dead; afterwards it was clear there were only 54 dead, at least 45 of them fighters.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This today from Corriere della Serra via Ma&#8217;ariv</p>
<p>&#8220;Corriere della Serra Thursday quoted a doctor at Shifa Hospital in Gaza City saying that, despite Hamas and UN claims, most of those killed in Gaza were young men who were members of terror groups.</p>
<p>&#8220;The number of deaths was between 500-600&#8230;most were young men between 17 and 23 who were recruited into the ranks of Hamas, which sent them to be slaughtered,&#8221; he said.</p>
<p>&#8221; Journalist Lorenzo Cremonesi confirmed that only 600 people were killed, and not 1,300 as was widely reported, based on hospital visits and discussions with families of the victims.</p>
<p>&#8220;It was strange that the non-governmental organizations, including Western ones, repeated the number without checking, but the truth will come to light in the end,&#8221; said the doctor.</p>
<p>&#8220;It&#8217;s like what happened in Jenin in 2002,&#8221; he said. &#8220;At the beginning they spoke of 500 dead; afterwards it was clear there were only 54 dead, at least 45 of them fighters.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: bissli</title>
		<link>http://hurryupharry.org/2009/01/21/hamas-seeks-collaborators/comment-page-2/#comment-290538</link>
		<dc:creator>bissli</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Jan 2009 15:46:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There&#039;s a doctor in Gaza who has given a quote to an Italian newspaper saying that the death toll has probably been hugely over-estimated.

&quot;It&#039;s possible that the death toll in Gaza was 500 or 600 at the most, mainly youths aged 17 to 23 who were enlisted by Hamas - who sent them to their deaths.&quot; 

The Gaza doctor was further quoted as saying: &quot;Perhaps it is like Jenin in 2002. At the beginning they spoke about 1,500 dead, and at the end it turned out to be only 54 - of whom 45 were militants.&quot;

http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/1057874.html

Wow. Don&#039;t fancy his chances much.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There&#8217;s a doctor in Gaza who has given a quote to an Italian newspaper saying that the death toll has probably been hugely over-estimated.</p>
<p>&#8220;It&#8217;s possible that the death toll in Gaza was 500 or 600 at the most, mainly youths aged 17 to 23 who were enlisted by Hamas &#8211; who sent them to their deaths.&#8221; </p>
<p>The Gaza doctor was further quoted as saying: &#8220;Perhaps it is like Jenin in 2002. At the beginning they spoke about 1,500 dead, and at the end it turned out to be only 54 &#8211; of whom 45 were militants.&#8221;</p>
<p><a href="http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/1057874.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/1057874.html</a></p>
<p>Wow. Don&#8217;t fancy his chances much.</p>
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		<title>By: Toady</title>
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		<dc:creator>Toady</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Jan 2009 15:19:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;I am not sure that the people of Gaza, though they elected Hamas, have much choice &lt;/i&gt;

They sympathised with and applauded Hamas for years.  So, yes, they did have a choice.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>I am not sure that the people of Gaza, though they elected Hamas, have much choice </i></p>
<p>They sympathised with and applauded Hamas for years.  So, yes, they did have a choice.</p>
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		<title>By: Gordon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gordon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Jan 2009 10:24:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Don&#039;t get me started on Channel 4 News. I can&#039;t watch it period.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Don&#8217;t get me started on Channel 4 News. I can&#8217;t watch it period.</p>
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		<title>By: Inna Tysoe</title>
		<link>http://hurryupharry.org/2009/01/21/hamas-seeks-collaborators/comment-page-2/#comment-290328</link>
		<dc:creator>Inna Tysoe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Jan 2009 08:59:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Allow me to state the obvious: if the Hamas Government of Gaza is terrorizing and executing Fatah members then Palestinians are engaged in a Civil War.  That means that it may be difficult for them to form one state.

If the Hamas Government of Gaza is sufficiently weakened and is sufficiently hurting the Egyptian economy with (for example) counterfeit money then Egypt (which is torturing Hamas members) will have an incentive to ask the UN to allow it to &quot;protect&quot; Gaza in much the same way Syria &quot;protects&quot; Lebanon.  I have every confidence that the UN will be fine with that idea.

So, the only Middle Eastern allies the Palestinians really have (if they want their own state--as opposed to two or no state) are located in Israel.  So if Israel did indeed fail as many here are saying then it failed first of all the Palestinians.

Regards,

Inna</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Allow me to state the obvious: if the Hamas Government of Gaza is terrorizing and executing Fatah members then Palestinians are engaged in a Civil War.  That means that it may be difficult for them to form one state.</p>
<p>If the Hamas Government of Gaza is sufficiently weakened and is sufficiently hurting the Egyptian economy with (for example) counterfeit money then Egypt (which is torturing Hamas members) will have an incentive to ask the UN to allow it to &#8220;protect&#8221; Gaza in much the same way Syria &#8220;protects&#8221; Lebanon.  I have every confidence that the UN will be fine with that idea.</p>
<p>So, the only Middle Eastern allies the Palestinians really have (if they want their own state&#8211;as opposed to two or no state) are located in Israel.  So if Israel did indeed fail as many here are saying then it failed first of all the Palestinians.</p>
<p>Regards,</p>
<p>Inna</p>
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		<title>By: Mark</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Jan 2009 08:08:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Non here&#039;s a question - why  the the Guardian have a comment piece on the &quot;Why Israel Lost&quot; theme by Mousa Abu Marzook &quot;deputy chief of the Hamas political bureau&quot; (whartever that may be) without a right to comment. 


I would have so liked to ask  him about the BBC news story on how few people came to the Hamas rally!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Non here&#8217;s a question &#8211; why  the the Guardian have a comment piece on the &#8220;Why Israel Lost&#8221; theme by Mousa Abu Marzook &#8220;deputy chief of the Hamas political bureau&#8221; (whartever that may be) without a right to comment. </p>
<p>I would have so liked to ask  him about the BBC news story on how few people came to the Hamas rally!</p>
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		<title>By: Jimmy Choo</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jimmy Choo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Jan 2009 08:07:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;Have to remember Flying rodent is a rat in more ways than one.&lt;/i&gt; David All

Actually David a flying rodent is a squirrel, which explains why he&#039;s nuts.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Have to remember Flying rodent is a rat in more ways than one.</i> David All</p>
<p>Actually David a flying rodent is a squirrel, which explains why he&#8217;s nuts.</p>
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		<title>By: Benjamin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Benjamin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Jan 2009 04:39:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;Given what’s happening now in Gaza, I think it’s symbolically significant that Barack Obama’s first phone call as president to a foreign leader was to Mahmoud Abbas.&lt;/i&gt;

Symbolically useless, in a way, although if he rang a Palestinian first that&#039;s a turn up for the books.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Given what’s happening now in Gaza, I think it’s symbolically significant that Barack Obama’s first phone call as president to a foreign leader was to Mahmoud Abbas.</i></p>
<p>Symbolically useless, in a way, although if he rang a Palestinian first that&#8217;s a turn up for the books.</p>
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