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	<description>Liberty, if it means anything, is the right to tell people what they don&#039;t want to hear</description>
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		<title>By: Voltaire's Priest</title>
		<link>http://hurryupharry.org/2009/01/16/quick-work/comment-page-1/#comment-286733</link>
		<dc:creator>Voltaire's Priest</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Jan 2009 19:03:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Gene - indeed, if that were what Israel was doing then it would be commendable.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gene &#8211; indeed, if that were what Israel was doing then it would be commendable.</p>
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		<title>By: John P.</title>
		<link>http://hurryupharry.org/2009/01/16/quick-work/comment-page-1/#comment-286713</link>
		<dc:creator>John P.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Jan 2009 18:13:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i.His team are powerful enough to say No to Obama and fight him over it but I suspect Obama won’t do to much to fight against the opinions of those who have experience.&lt;/i&gt;

So he&#039;s merely a sock-puppet condemned to obey orders from ageing Clinton cronies?

&lt;i&gt;Obama’s tragedy might be that he presides over things that no-one can do anything about.&lt;/i&gt;

I see, so he hasn&#039;t taken the oath of office yet, but already the apologetics begin.

One can&#039;t controle or teleprompt the unfolding of history, events or economic downturns, and so I think that Obama&#039;s total inability to improvise, to play it by ear and to do so in a convincing manner, will mean his supporters are in for a some very early, very nasty and very embarassing surprises.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&lt;i.His team are powerful enough to say No to Obama and fight him over it but I suspect Obama won’t do to much to fight against the opinions of those who have experience.</p>
<p>So he&#8217;s merely a sock-puppet condemned to obey orders from ageing Clinton cronies?</p>
<p><i>Obama’s tragedy might be that he presides over things that no-one can do anything about.</i></p>
<p>I see, so he hasn&#8217;t taken the oath of office yet, but already the apologetics begin.</p>
<p>One can&#8217;t controle or teleprompt the unfolding of history, events or economic downturns, and so I think that Obama&#8217;s total inability to improvise, to play it by ear and to do so in a convincing manner, will mean his supporters are in for a some very early, very nasty and very embarassing surprises.</p>
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		<title>By: Gene</title>
		<link>http://hurryupharry.org/2009/01/16/quick-work/comment-page-1/#comment-286712</link>
		<dc:creator>Gene</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Jan 2009 18:11:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;My original point was to question how the last fortnight or so’s posts mark this site out as left-wing. The answer I suppose is that they don’t.&lt;/i&gt;

OK, then, take the second part of my argument-- that Israel is fighting a death-loving, reactionary, fascistic, antisemitic organization that represses trade unions, openly advocates for the extermination of Jews and the creation of a worldwide Islamist caliphate. Surely a struggle against such an organization is leftwing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>My original point was to question how the last fortnight or so’s posts mark this site out as left-wing. The answer I suppose is that they don’t.</i></p>
<p>OK, then, take the second part of my argument&#8211; that Israel is fighting a death-loving, reactionary, fascistic, antisemitic organization that represses trade unions, openly advocates for the extermination of Jews and the creation of a worldwide Islamist caliphate. Surely a struggle against such an organization is leftwing.</p>
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		<title>By: Voltaire's Priest</title>
		<link>http://hurryupharry.org/2009/01/16/quick-work/comment-page-1/#comment-286696</link>
		<dc:creator>Voltaire's Priest</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Jan 2009 17:45:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Gene - no it doesn&#039;t (although where we disagree is that I don&#039;t believe that&#039;s what the Israeli attacks on Gaza are doing either). However it also isn&#039;t something that is a &lt;i&gt;marker&lt;/i&gt; of left-wing politics either; ie right wingers say and even do it too. My original point was to question how the last fortnight or so&#039;s posts mark this site out as left-wing. The answer I suppose is that they don&#039;t.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gene &#8211; no it doesn&#8217;t (although where we disagree is that I don&#8217;t believe that&#8217;s what the Israeli attacks on Gaza are doing either). However it also isn&#8217;t something that is a <i>marker</i> of left-wing politics either; ie right wingers say and even do it too. My original point was to question how the last fortnight or so&#8217;s posts mark this site out as left-wing. The answer I suppose is that they don&#8217;t.</p>
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		<title>By: Darren</title>
		<link>http://hurryupharry.org/2009/01/16/quick-work/comment-page-1/#comment-286695</link>
		<dc:creator>Darren</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Jan 2009 17:42:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Stalinists?&quot;

Don&#039;t think so. 

Though they came out of the official communist movement - which explains why &#039;Harry&#039; always hated them. He was a proper twentysomething tankie back in the day  - they&#039;d probably position themselves nowadays as Leninists rather than Stalinist, Trotskyists of Marxist-Conradites.

Anyway, the latest Socialist Standard is a much better front cover:

&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.causeur.fr/swinging-gauchistes,1691&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Swinging gauchistes&lt;/a&gt;

But I would say that. I&#039;m programmed that way.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Stalinists?&#8221;</p>
<p>Don&#8217;t think so. </p>
<p>Though they came out of the official communist movement &#8211; which explains why &#8216;Harry&#8217; always hated them. He was a proper twentysomething tankie back in the day  &#8211; they&#8217;d probably position themselves nowadays as Leninists rather than Stalinist, Trotskyists of Marxist-Conradites.</p>
<p>Anyway, the latest Socialist Standard is a much better front cover:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.causeur.fr/swinging-gauchistes,1691" rel="nofollow">Swinging gauchistes</a></p>
<p>But I would say that. I&#8217;m programmed that way.</p>
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		<title>By: steve brown</title>
		<link>http://hurryupharry.org/2009/01/16/quick-work/comment-page-1/#comment-286652</link>
		<dc:creator>steve brown</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Jan 2009 16:45:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&#039;&#039;Top of the Trots&#039; - hey really funny!! Top of the Pops geddit! That program that used to be on like years ago!! And the CPGB - they&#039;re Stalinists you bunch of non-wits.  Get a life you sad baby killer supporters.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8221;Top of the Trots&#8217; &#8211; hey really funny!! Top of the Pops geddit! That program that used to be on like years ago!! And the CPGB &#8211; they&#8217;re Stalinists you bunch of non-wits.  Get a life you sad baby killer supporters.</p>
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		<title>By: Gene</title>
		<link>http://hurryupharry.org/2009/01/16/quick-work/comment-page-1/#comment-286611</link>
		<dc:creator>Gene</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Jan 2009 15:47:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;Boogski: the main point was that “defending democracy” is a phrase almost anyone can use. It certainly isn’t a marker of left-of-centre politics.&lt;/i&gt;

I don&#039;t get your point, VP. Wasn&#039;t the Spanish Civil War-- the great leftwing cause of the last century-- about defending democracy against fascists (at least at the beginning)? Perhaps there are others willing to defend democracy these days, but does that exempt the Left from doing so?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Boogski: the main point was that “defending democracy” is a phrase almost anyone can use. It certainly isn’t a marker of left-of-centre politics.</i></p>
<p>I don&#8217;t get your point, VP. Wasn&#8217;t the Spanish Civil War&#8211; the great leftwing cause of the last century&#8211; about defending democracy against fascists (at least at the beginning)? Perhaps there are others willing to defend democracy these days, but does that exempt the Left from doing so?</p>
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		<title>By: PlumStupid</title>
		<link>http://hurryupharry.org/2009/01/16/quick-work/comment-page-1/#comment-286550</link>
		<dc:creator>PlumStupid</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Jan 2009 14:24:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;Obama will be a disaster. He has no experience, is a careerist and is facing the worst economic downturn since the crash of ‘29.&lt;/i&gt;

Maybe Obama isn&#039;t actually driving the bus. Maybe he&#039;s just the bus conductor. I think his team will do most of the &#039;running of the country&#039; with Obama being the delivery mechanism.

His team are powerful enough to say No to Obama and fight him over it but I suspect Obama won&#039;t do to much to fight against the opinions of those who have experience.

Obama&#039;s tragedy might be that he presides over things that no-one can do anything about.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Obama will be a disaster. He has no experience, is a careerist and is facing the worst economic downturn since the crash of ‘29.</i></p>
<p>Maybe Obama isn&#8217;t actually driving the bus. Maybe he&#8217;s just the bus conductor. I think his team will do most of the &#8216;running of the country&#8217; with Obama being the delivery mechanism.</p>
<p>His team are powerful enough to say No to Obama and fight him over it but I suspect Obama won&#8217;t do to much to fight against the opinions of those who have experience.</p>
<p>Obama&#8217;s tragedy might be that he presides over things that no-one can do anything about.</p>
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		<title>By: John P.</title>
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		<dc:creator>John P.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Jan 2009 12:40:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Obama will be a disaster. He has no experience, is a careerist and is facing the worst economic downturn since the crash of &#039;29.

And his election was probably the last manifestation of the &#039;irrational exhuberence&#039; that characterised the Bush era. I&#039;ve been listening to the guy for nearly a year now and still can&#039;t figure out what his platform is.

His fall will be just as quick as his rise.

He&#039;s the political version of a  pop-culture fad.

Like the twist or the macarena</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Obama will be a disaster. He has no experience, is a careerist and is facing the worst economic downturn since the crash of &#8216;29.</p>
<p>And his election was probably the last manifestation of the &#8216;irrational exhuberence&#8217; that characterised the Bush era. I&#8217;ve been listening to the guy for nearly a year now and still can&#8217;t figure out what his platform is.</p>
<p>His fall will be just as quick as his rise.</p>
<p>He&#8217;s the political version of a  pop-culture fad.</p>
<p>Like the twist or the macarena</p>
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		<title>By: Boogski</title>
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		<dc:creator>Boogski</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Jan 2009 11:17:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;Boogski: the main point was that “defending democracy” is a phrase almost anyone can use. It certainly isn’t a marker of left-of-centre politics.&lt;/i&gt;

You&#039;re a smart dude, Volt. What&#039;s it been? Five years now? :D

Yes, anyone can use “defending democracy”. The question is, whose democracy do you want to defend? Hamas democracy or Israeli democracy?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Boogski: the main point was that “defending democracy” is a phrase almost anyone can use. It certainly isn’t a marker of left-of-centre politics.</i></p>
<p>You&#8217;re a smart dude, Volt. What&#8217;s it been? Five years now? :D</p>
<p>Yes, anyone can use “defending democracy”. The question is, whose democracy do you want to defend? Hamas democracy or Israeli democracy?</p>
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