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	<description>Liberty, if it means anything, is the right to tell people what they don&#039;t want to hear</description>
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		<title>By: comstock</title>
		<link>http://hurryupharry.org/2009/01/16/downright-weird/comment-page-4/#comment-287924</link>
		<dc:creator>comstock</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Jan 2009 02:29:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Serendipity

Most people care more about whether they will have jobs this time next month.

This is all so pertinent!!!! Foreign policy is not going to be Obama&#039;s main priority. We cannot afford a small minority of the idle left to go on the rampage anymore!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Serendipity</p>
<p>Most people care more about whether they will have jobs this time next month.</p>
<p>This is all so pertinent!!!! Foreign policy is not going to be Obama&#8217;s main priority. We cannot afford a small minority of the idle left to go on the rampage anymore!</p>
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		<title>By: Josh Scholar</title>
		<link>http://hurryupharry.org/2009/01/16/downright-weird/comment-page-4/#comment-286778</link>
		<dc:creator>Josh Scholar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Jan 2009 20:44:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;Finally I’ve come to understand some of your posts. You live in a state of denial.&lt;/i&gt;

Lol, no it&#039;s you western Palestinian activists who are in denial.  The Palestinians do everything in their power to prevent an Israeli pullout and hard borders that would keep settlers from taking more land.  

&lt;i&gt;They&lt;/i&gt; don&#039;t care about what you think they should care about.

Anyway my values don&#039;t place land high on any list.  Everyone in history has been kicked off their land.   My own ancestors were slaughtered as well as expelled probably more than once

So what.  That&#039;s no excuse for hatred, genocidal intent, vendetta, war

That&#039;s what you excuse.  That&#039;s what &lt;i&gt;your&lt;/i&gt; &quot;hasbara&quot; promotes.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Finally I’ve come to understand some of your posts. You live in a state of denial.</i></p>
<p>Lol, no it&#8217;s you western Palestinian activists who are in denial.  The Palestinians do everything in their power to prevent an Israeli pullout and hard borders that would keep settlers from taking more land.  </p>
<p><i>They</i> don&#8217;t care about what you think they should care about.</p>
<p>Anyway my values don&#8217;t place land high on any list.  Everyone in history has been kicked off their land.   My own ancestors were slaughtered as well as expelled probably more than once</p>
<p>So what.  That&#8217;s no excuse for hatred, genocidal intent, vendetta, war</p>
<p>That&#8217;s what you excuse.  That&#8217;s what <i>your</i> &#8220;hasbara&#8221; promotes.</p>
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		<title>By: Serendipity</title>
		<link>http://hurryupharry.org/2009/01/16/downright-weird/comment-page-3/#comment-286757</link>
		<dc:creator>Serendipity</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Jan 2009 19:52:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mike, what is this obsession with &quot;many people think...?&quot;   You share it with quite a few people here.

Most people don&#039;t give a damn about anything which doesn&#039;t affect them directly.  I would wager that they care more about anti-Israel demonstrations which turn violent (and which show Muslims in a very bad light in spite of the letter condemning violence against British Jews, rather than Jews in general) than they do about what Israel does or does not do, or that she is an extension of Western colonialism.  Most people care more about whether they will have jobs this time next month.

That letter is a disgrace, smells strongly of weasel and calls to mind the so-called covenant of security offered to this numpty government by Islamists here.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mike, what is this obsession with &#8220;many people think&#8230;?&#8221;   You share it with quite a few people here.</p>
<p>Most people don&#8217;t give a damn about anything which doesn&#8217;t affect them directly.  I would wager that they care more about anti-Israel demonstrations which turn violent (and which show Muslims in a very bad light in spite of the letter condemning violence against British Jews, rather than Jews in general) than they do about what Israel does or does not do, or that she is an extension of Western colonialism.  Most people care more about whether they will have jobs this time next month.</p>
<p>That letter is a disgrace, smells strongly of weasel and calls to mind the so-called covenant of security offered to this numpty government by Islamists here.</p>
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		<title>By: The Hasbara Buster</title>
		<link>http://hurryupharry.org/2009/01/16/downright-weird/comment-page-3/#comment-286750</link>
		<dc:creator>The Hasbara Buster</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Jan 2009 19:40:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Land is a sideshow I don’t care about at all. It’s not an issue of life and death, it’s not ruining the lives of children with fear, it’s not promoting hate and war…&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Finally I&#039;ve come to understand some of your posts. You live in a state of denial.

&lt;blockquote&gt;Let me know when peace is on offer. &lt;/blockquote&gt;

A peace plan was proposed in 2002, and ratified in 2007. It&#039;s called the Arab Peace Initiative.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Land is a sideshow I don’t care about at all. It’s not an issue of life and death, it’s not ruining the lives of children with fear, it’s not promoting hate and war…</p></blockquote>
<p>Finally I&#8217;ve come to understand some of your posts. You live in a state of denial.</p>
<blockquote><p>Let me know when peace is on offer. </p></blockquote>
<p>A peace plan was proposed in 2002, and ratified in 2007. It&#8217;s called the Arab Peace Initiative.</p>
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		<title>By: Josh Scholar</title>
		<link>http://hurryupharry.org/2009/01/16/downright-weird/comment-page-3/#comment-286737</link>
		<dc:creator>Josh Scholar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Jan 2009 19:08:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I didn&#039;t answer that point because it isn&#039;t important to me.  

All I want is for the war to end.  And if there are bombs that&#039;s not an end. If there are rockets, that&#039;s not an end.  And if children are being indoctrinated to want genocide and commit terrorist acts later, that&#039;s not an end.

Let me know when peace is on offer.  Land is a sideshow I don&#039;t care about at all.  It&#039;s not an issue of life and death, it&#039;s not ruining the lives of children with fear, it&#039;s not promoting hate and war... it&#039;s just fucking ownership.  Hey, maybe you&#039;re a trot, remember &quot;ownership is theft&quot;?

Anyway I just couldn&#039;t give two shits about who claims papers to what pile of dirt.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I didn&#8217;t answer that point because it isn&#8217;t important to me.  </p>
<p>All I want is for the war to end.  And if there are bombs that&#8217;s not an end. If there are rockets, that&#8217;s not an end.  And if children are being indoctrinated to want genocide and commit terrorist acts later, that&#8217;s not an end.</p>
<p>Let me know when peace is on offer.  Land is a sideshow I don&#8217;t care about at all.  It&#8217;s not an issue of life and death, it&#8217;s not ruining the lives of children with fear, it&#8217;s not promoting hate and war&#8230; it&#8217;s just fucking ownership.  Hey, maybe you&#8217;re a trot, remember &#8220;ownership is theft&#8221;?</p>
<p>Anyway I just couldn&#8217;t give two shits about who claims papers to what pile of dirt.</p>
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		<title>By: The Hasbara Buster</title>
		<link>http://hurryupharry.org/2009/01/16/downright-weird/comment-page-3/#comment-286729</link>
		<dc:creator>The Hasbara Buster</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Jan 2009 18:53:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;HB, it hardly matters now since the rocket attacks, like the suicide bombings have made a pull out from the west bank too suicidal for Israel to ever do.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

I&#039;m not asking Israel to withdraw from the West Bank. I&#039;m asking it to stop fundamentalist Jews from further stealing Palestinian land. If you feign not to understand the difference it&#039;s because you really have no answer to my point.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>HB, it hardly matters now since the rocket attacks, like the suicide bombings have made a pull out from the west bank too suicidal for Israel to ever do.</p></blockquote>
<p>I&#8217;m not asking Israel to withdraw from the West Bank. I&#8217;m asking it to stop fundamentalist Jews from further stealing Palestinian land. If you feign not to understand the difference it&#8217;s because you really have no answer to my point.</p>
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		<title>By: zkharya</title>
		<link>http://hurryupharry.org/2009/01/16/downright-weird/comment-page-3/#comment-286687</link>
		<dc:creator>zkharya</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Jan 2009 17:33:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;If the Arabs were bombing Israel, the left would be protesting against it just a ferocioulsy.&quot;

Ah, Steve Brown, the man who wanted as many of the unhappy, resentful and disgruntled to make the embassy of the Jewish national presence in this country the object of their violent disaffection as possible:

&quot;The leader of the Jewish Students Union in France said that in this time of crisis, the Palestinian cause could act as a lightning rod for deeper social discontent.

I do hope he is right. Get out there on Saturday, get as many people to go with you. We may be in the middle of a lit fuse...
(The real) Steve Brown &#124; Homepage &#124; 7 Jan, 16:37 &#124; # &quot;

http://leninology.blogspot.com/2009/01/government-attempts-to-block-gaza-march.html


C&#039;est vraiment le socialism des idiots.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;If the Arabs were bombing Israel, the left would be protesting against it just a ferocioulsy.&#8221;</p>
<p>Ah, Steve Brown, the man who wanted as many of the unhappy, resentful and disgruntled to make the embassy of the Jewish national presence in this country the object of their violent disaffection as possible:</p>
<p>&#8220;The leader of the Jewish Students Union in France said that in this time of crisis, the Palestinian cause could act as a lightning rod for deeper social discontent.</p>
<p>I do hope he is right. Get out there on Saturday, get as many people to go with you. We may be in the middle of a lit fuse&#8230;<br />
(The real) Steve Brown | Homepage | 7 Jan, 16:37 | # &#8221;</p>
<p><a href="http://leninology.blogspot.com/2009/01/government-attempts-to-block-gaza-march.html" rel="nofollow">http://leninology.blogspot.com/2009/01/government-attempts-to-block-gaza-march.html</a></p>
<p>C&#8217;est vraiment le socialism des idiots.</p>
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		<title>By: From the desk of Mr Galloway</title>
		<link>http://hurryupharry.org/2009/01/16/downright-weird/comment-page-3/#comment-286674</link>
		<dc:creator>From the desk of Mr Galloway</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Jan 2009 17:07:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You have not read what Wurtzel says have you Steve?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You have not read what Wurtzel says have you Steve?</p>
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		<title>By: steve brown</title>
		<link>http://hurryupharry.org/2009/01/16/downright-weird/comment-page-3/#comment-286662</link>
		<dc:creator>steve brown</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Jan 2009 16:55:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wurtzel&#039;s piece is terrible.  Face it.  If the Arabs were bombing Israel, the left would be protesting against it just a ferocioulsy.  Just lazily dressing up any criticism of Israel as anti-semitic is just condoning slaughter.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wurtzel&#8217;s piece is terrible.  Face it.  If the Arabs were bombing Israel, the left would be protesting against it just a ferocioulsy.  Just lazily dressing up any criticism of Israel as anti-semitic is just condoning slaughter.</p>
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		<title>By: Josh Scholar</title>
		<link>http://hurryupharry.org/2009/01/16/downright-weird/comment-page-3/#comment-286638</link>
		<dc:creator>Josh Scholar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Jan 2009 16:34:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>HB, it hardly matters now since the rocket attacks, like the suicide bombings have made a pull out from the west bank too suicidal for Israel to ever do.

Thus my point is made.  The Palestinians choose those actions which make independence impossible.  I would suggest that this was a deliberate choice on the part of the various leaderships - both of the PLO and other militias, and that since it evokes no resentment on the part of the Palestinian public, that the loss of the possibility of a reasonable ending to the conflict doesn&#039;t matter to the Palestinian public.

I don&#039;t really understand why your focus is on the fact that life is not ideal for Palestinians during the war they perpetuate.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>HB, it hardly matters now since the rocket attacks, like the suicide bombings have made a pull out from the west bank too suicidal for Israel to ever do.</p>
<p>Thus my point is made.  The Palestinians choose those actions which make independence impossible.  I would suggest that this was a deliberate choice on the part of the various leaderships &#8211; both of the PLO and other militias, and that since it evokes no resentment on the part of the Palestinian public, that the loss of the possibility of a reasonable ending to the conflict doesn&#8217;t matter to the Palestinian public.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t really understand why your focus is on the fact that life is not ideal for Palestinians during the war they perpetuate.</p>
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