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		<title>By: Lbnaz</title>
		<link>http://hurryupharry.org/2009/01/03/idf-launches-ground-assault/comment-page-4/#comment-277167</link>
		<dc:creator>Lbnaz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Jan 2009 18:13:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;But having them back again is far too high a price to pay for peace.&lt;/i&gt;

It was the Egyptian army who on their march northward to destroy Tel Aviv reached Najd first in 1948 which precipitated the flight of the approx. 500 residents  of Najd. Using the Ilan Pappe lexicon, where every instance of a flight of Arab residents during the 1948-49 war constitutes a demonstration of ethnic cleansing, a Pappe devotee would be compelled to conclude that the Egyptian army and not the Haganah/IDF was responsible for the ethnic cleansing of Najd. But then again, granting Palestinian Arabs citizenship in Egypt is apparently too high a price to pay for TMN and for every Arab country that participated in the 48-49 war except for Jordan.  

Be that as it may, let us assume for TMN&#039;s sake that they are to be resettled in Israel. In order to satisfy the requirements of UNSC 242, the approx. 500 former residents of Najd, or those Arabs recognized as legal inheritors of their property would have to agree to and accept a:
 
&lt;blockquote&gt;Termination of all claims or states of belligerency and respect for and acknowledgement of the sovereignty, territorial integrity and political independence of every State in the area and their right to live in peace within secure and recognized boundaries free from threats or acts of force;&lt;/blockquote&gt;

In other words, the price they would have to pay for peace in order to be resettled in Israel is the abandonment of resistance against Israel, Israelis and Jews in Israel. Is that a price (forever abandoning Hamas, Islamic Jihad, PRC, Al Aqsa Martyrs Brigade, etc.) they would be willing to pay? Would they even be allowed to pay that price even if they wanted to in light of Hamas control of Gaza? Answers on a postcard.  

Last of all, it should go without saying that even if these former residents of Najd were to be resettled in Israel on the site of the former village, that clearly &lt;b&gt;would not lead to peace&lt;/b&gt; as far as Islamists are concerned, because as was composed by Hassan al Banna, founder of the Ikhwan (Muslim Brotherhood) and written into the Hamas constitution (in direct contravention of UNSC 242): &lt;i&gt;Israel will exist and will continue to exist until Islam will obliterate it, just as it obliterated others before it&lt;/i&gt;. In other words, TMN&#039;s rhetorical snipe is premised on a falsehood and rendered moot.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>But having them back again is far too high a price to pay for peace.</i></p>
<p>It was the Egyptian army who on their march northward to destroy Tel Aviv reached Najd first in 1948 which precipitated the flight of the approx. 500 residents  of Najd. Using the Ilan Pappe lexicon, where every instance of a flight of Arab residents during the 1948-49 war constitutes a demonstration of ethnic cleansing, a Pappe devotee would be compelled to conclude that the Egyptian army and not the Haganah/IDF was responsible for the ethnic cleansing of Najd. But then again, granting Palestinian Arabs citizenship in Egypt is apparently too high a price to pay for TMN and for every Arab country that participated in the 48-49 war except for Jordan.  </p>
<p>Be that as it may, let us assume for TMN&#8217;s sake that they are to be resettled in Israel. In order to satisfy the requirements of UNSC 242, the approx. 500 former residents of Najd, or those Arabs recognized as legal inheritors of their property would have to agree to and accept a:</p>
<blockquote><p>Termination of all claims or states of belligerency and respect for and acknowledgement of the sovereignty, territorial integrity and political independence of every State in the area and their right to live in peace within secure and recognized boundaries free from threats or acts of force;</p></blockquote>
<p>In other words, the price they would have to pay for peace in order to be resettled in Israel is the abandonment of resistance against Israel, Israelis and Jews in Israel. Is that a price (forever abandoning Hamas, Islamic Jihad, PRC, Al Aqsa Martyrs Brigade, etc.) they would be willing to pay? Would they even be allowed to pay that price even if they wanted to in light of Hamas control of Gaza? Answers on a postcard.  </p>
<p>Last of all, it should go without saying that even if these former residents of Najd were to be resettled in Israel on the site of the former village, that clearly <b>would not lead to peace</b> as far as Islamists are concerned, because as was composed by Hassan al Banna, founder of the Ikhwan (Muslim Brotherhood) and written into the Hamas constitution (in direct contravention of UNSC 242): <i>Israel will exist and will continue to exist until Islam will obliterate it, just as it obliterated others before it</i>. In other words, TMN&#8217;s rhetorical snipe is premised on a falsehood and rendered moot.</p>
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		<title>By: TMN</title>
		<link>http://hurryupharry.org/2009/01/03/idf-launches-ground-assault/comment-page-4/#comment-277046</link>
		<dc:creator>TMN</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Jan 2009 14:45:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;nobody lives on its former site&quot;

But having them back again is far too high a price to pay for peace.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;nobody lives on its former site&#8221;</p>
<p>But having them back again is far too high a price to pay for peace.</p>
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		<title>By: Lbnaz</title>
		<link>http://hurryupharry.org/2009/01/03/idf-launches-ground-assault/comment-page-4/#comment-276903</link>
		<dc:creator>Lbnaz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Jan 2009 09:37:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;This is a lie. Sderot was the Arab town of Najd. Similarly, Ashkelon was the Arab village of Al-Majdal. Too bad you don’t know the history of the country you’ve chosen to live in. But it doesn’t surprise me. If you knew it, you would be fighting, not supporting, Israel.&lt;/i&gt;

Surprise Alberto. Sderot  is on a hill top more than 5 miles to the southwest of Najd (pop. about 500 in 1948). Sderot was never Najd; Najd did not become Sderot; nobody lives on its former site. Alberto, given your LIE about Najd &amp; Sderot - demonstrating that you clearly don&#039;t know either the history or geography of Israel - and according to your own logic, doesn&#039;t that mean you should be supporting Israel, instead of fighting against it? I mean you&#039;re not a garden variety hypocrite and a liar, or are you?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>This is a lie. Sderot was the Arab town of Najd. Similarly, Ashkelon was the Arab village of Al-Majdal. Too bad you don’t know the history of the country you’ve chosen to live in. But it doesn’t surprise me. If you knew it, you would be fighting, not supporting, Israel.</i></p>
<p>Surprise Alberto. Sderot  is on a hill top more than 5 miles to the southwest of Najd (pop. about 500 in 1948). Sderot was never Najd; Najd did not become Sderot; nobody lives on its former site. Alberto, given your LIE about Najd &amp; Sderot &#8211; demonstrating that you clearly don&#8217;t know either the history or geography of Israel &#8211; and according to your own logic, doesn&#8217;t that mean you should be supporting Israel, instead of fighting against it? I mean you&#8217;re not a garden variety hypocrite and a liar, or are you?</p>
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		<title>By: Hamid</title>
		<link>http://hurryupharry.org/2009/01/03/idf-launches-ground-assault/comment-page-4/#comment-276871</link>
		<dc:creator>Hamid</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Jan 2009 07:17:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Vildechaye

The Marxist dystopians cant understand economics or production.  They religiously believe that out of simply communal good intentions and a correct ideological path, wealth is created.  They are illiterate of economics, management, finance, and all the other stuff that leads to production.</description>
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<p>The Marxist dystopians cant understand economics or production.  They religiously believe that out of simply communal good intentions and a correct ideological path, wealth is created.  They are illiterate of economics, management, finance, and all the other stuff that leads to production.</p>
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		<title>By: vildechaye</title>
		<link>http://hurryupharry.org/2009/01/03/idf-launches-ground-assault/comment-page-4/#comment-276731</link>
		<dc:creator>vildechaye</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Jan 2009 23:34:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>RE: and the rpely to vildechaye is awaiting moderators approval, probably for having many links.

Oh i&#039;m moist with anticipation. Can just imagine the content of those &quot;links,&quot; seeing as they&#039;re being send by an unreconstructed Trotskyite Marxist aiming for utopia, which, if it were ever to come to pass (not in my lifetime, i&#039;m sure) would surely instead become a dystopia that would make the capitalist west look like the promised land.

Which is exactly what has happened in every declared Marxist state till now, from the Soviet Union to China to Cuba to the Eastern Bloc states to N. Korea. 

What I have never understood is how these Marxist utopians can ignore the millions upon millions of people who vote with their feet, often risking their lives for a life of freedom and relative prosperity somewhere in the West.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>RE: and the rpely to vildechaye is awaiting moderators approval, probably for having many links.</p>
<p>Oh i&#8217;m moist with anticipation. Can just imagine the content of those &#8220;links,&#8221; seeing as they&#8217;re being send by an unreconstructed Trotskyite Marxist aiming for utopia, which, if it were ever to come to pass (not in my lifetime, i&#8217;m sure) would surely instead become a dystopia that would make the capitalist west look like the promised land.</p>
<p>Which is exactly what has happened in every declared Marxist state till now, from the Soviet Union to China to Cuba to the Eastern Bloc states to N. Korea. </p>
<p>What I have never understood is how these Marxist utopians can ignore the millions upon millions of people who vote with their feet, often risking their lives for a life of freedom and relative prosperity somewhere in the West.</p>
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		<title>By: Hamid</title>
		<link>http://hurryupharry.org/2009/01/03/idf-launches-ground-assault/comment-page-4/#comment-276661</link>
		<dc:creator>Hamid</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Jan 2009 21:32:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;Nothing says “Compassion” like bombing a mosque and sending in tanks.&lt;/i&gt;

More nonsense from the leftofascists who are buzzing HP.

A mosque must be destroyed because it represents obscurantism and communal human subjugation.

Never mind that is where Hamas hides, and where Hamas stores its weapons of mass terror and subjugation.  Never mind that a mosque is the vehicle for brainwashing and indoctrinating children to racism, hatred, chauvinism and Islamic supremacy.

To do that, you need tanks.  And here we are.

As a Muslim apostate (hey anti-progressive lefties and pomos take notice), let me say - thank you the state and the people of Israel.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Nothing says “Compassion” like bombing a mosque and sending in tanks.</i></p>
<p>More nonsense from the leftofascists who are buzzing HP.</p>
<p>A mosque must be destroyed because it represents obscurantism and communal human subjugation.</p>
<p>Never mind that is where Hamas hides, and where Hamas stores its weapons of mass terror and subjugation.  Never mind that a mosque is the vehicle for brainwashing and indoctrinating children to racism, hatred, chauvinism and Islamic supremacy.</p>
<p>To do that, you need tanks.  And here we are.</p>
<p>As a Muslim apostate (hey anti-progressive lefties and pomos take notice), let me say &#8211; thank you the state and the people of Israel.</p>
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		<title>By: vildechaye</title>
		<link>http://hurryupharry.org/2009/01/03/idf-launches-ground-assault/comment-page-4/#comment-276591</link>
		<dc:creator>vildechaye</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Jan 2009 19:25:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>RE: v boy
Oh you are getting more and more upset.
Remember you have a condition that requires medication.
Paranoid persecution complex.
Hezbollah have as many fighters and arms now as they did pre invasion.
Now back to bed.
Or your safe armchair and watch the nasty children get blown apart.
So you can get sexually turned on by the carnage.

This from the guy who bemoaned my debating/argument skills. Real good. As for Hezbollah fighters and arms, I&#039;m happy they&#039;re keeping themselves and their arms well hidden in their bunkers. I just wonder why...
This is my last reply to you. bye now.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>RE: v boy<br />
Oh you are getting more and more upset.<br />
Remember you have a condition that requires medication.<br />
Paranoid persecution complex.<br />
Hezbollah have as many fighters and arms now as they did pre invasion.<br />
Now back to bed.<br />
Or your safe armchair and watch the nasty children get blown apart.<br />
So you can get sexually turned on by the carnage.</p>
<p>This from the guy who bemoaned my debating/argument skills. Real good. As for Hezbollah fighters and arms, I&#8217;m happy they&#8217;re keeping themselves and their arms well hidden in their bunkers. I just wonder why&#8230;<br />
This is my last reply to you. bye now.</p>
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		<title>By: Gene</title>
		<link>http://hurryupharry.org/2009/01/03/idf-launches-ground-assault/comment-page-4/#comment-276566</link>
		<dc:creator>Gene</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Jan 2009 18:46:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;Next time Chavez is repressing workers who fight for their rights I will send you an email&lt;/i&gt;

Please do.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Next time Chavez is repressing workers who fight for their rights I will send you an email</i></p>
<p>Please do.</p>
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		<title>By: Gene</title>
		<link>http://hurryupharry.org/2009/01/03/idf-launches-ground-assault/comment-page-4/#comment-276496</link>
		<dc:creator>Gene</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Jan 2009 17:14:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;intersting, my party has a section in Venezuela and we lead the working class resistance to Chavez, have ed occupations int he multinational factories SIDOR and Saniarios Maracay against Chavez, and faced up to his repression etc.Next time Chavez is repressing workers who fight for their rights I will send you an email, maybe you will help us…seeing as you are so anti-stalinist you obviously would support the real democratic and socialist left in fighting to democratically take control of the economy…&lt;/i&gt;

I&#039;d like to introduce you to Zin.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>intersting, my party has a section in Venezuela and we lead the working class resistance to Chavez, have ed occupations int he multinational factories SIDOR and Saniarios Maracay against Chavez, and faced up to his repression etc.Next time Chavez is repressing workers who fight for their rights I will send you an email, maybe you will help us…seeing as you are so anti-stalinist you obviously would support the real democratic and socialist left in fighting to democratically take control of the economy…</i></p>
<p>I&#8217;d like to introduce you to Zin.</p>
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		<title>By: The Hasbara Buster</title>
		<link>http://hurryupharry.org/2009/01/03/idf-launches-ground-assault/comment-page-4/#comment-276476</link>
		<dc:creator>The Hasbara Buster</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Jan 2009 16:12:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;nd Argentinean anti-Semitism is one more reason why Jews need to have their own country. &lt;/blockquote&gt;

That&#039;s why Argentinian Jews are voting with their feet... to stay in the country.

You know, things have been a-changin&#039; a lot in Argentina. It may surprise you to know that Perón is dead, Galtieri is no longer his Prime Minister and the capital has been moved from Rio de Janeiro to Buenos Aires.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>nd Argentinean anti-Semitism is one more reason why Jews need to have their own country. </p></blockquote>
<p>That&#8217;s why Argentinian Jews are voting with their feet&#8230; to stay in the country.</p>
<p>You know, things have been a-changin&#8217; a lot in Argentina. It may surprise you to know that Perón is dead, Galtieri is no longer his Prime Minister and the capital has been moved from Rio de Janeiro to Buenos Aires.</p>
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