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	<title>Comments on: Iranian newspaper publishes criticism of Hamas; gets shut down</title>
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	<description>Liberty, if it means anything, is the right to tell people what they don&#039;t want to hear</description>
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		<title>By: Zin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Zin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Jan 2009 19:20:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;It’s unfortunate because I consider the topic of the post– the failure of people to denounce the outrageous behavior of people within their own political ranks, the failure to (borrowing Orwell) face unpleasant facts about their own side– as extremely important.&lt;/i&gt; ~ Gene

Will the rest of the HP editors now denounce &lt;b&gt;Gene&lt;/b&gt; because of his outrageous support for those who overthrew democracy in the 2002 Venezuela?

Nope. Thought not. 

Pot. Kettle. Black.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>It’s unfortunate because I consider the topic of the post– the failure of people to denounce the outrageous behavior of people within their own political ranks, the failure to (borrowing Orwell) face unpleasant facts about their own side– as extremely important.</i> ~ Gene</p>
<p>Will the rest of the HP editors now denounce <b>Gene</b> because of his outrageous support for those who overthrew democracy in the 2002 Venezuela?</p>
<p>Nope. Thought not. </p>
<p>Pot. Kettle. Black.</p>
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		<title>By: Nearly Oxfordian</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nearly Oxfordian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Jan 2009 17:32:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;Finkelstein’s crime was being an anti-Zionist&lt;/i&gt;

Never heard such self-justifying, victim-card playing, special pleading, mendacious nonsense in my life.
Well, OK, I have, and usually from the same source and his ilk.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Finkelstein’s crime was being an anti-Zionist</i></p>
<p>Never heard such self-justifying, victim-card playing, special pleading, mendacious nonsense in my life.<br />
Well, OK, I have, and usually from the same source and his ilk.</p>
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		<title>By: Oh Do Shut Up</title>
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		<dc:creator>Oh Do Shut Up</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Jan 2009 17:01:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;Finkelstein’s crime was being an anti-Zionist, and that’s the reason he was not granted tenure.&lt;/i&gt;

Don&#039;t be silly.  There are plenty of anti-Zionists on the staff of American universities, it&#039;s not at all a controversial viewpoint -- quite the opposite, in fact.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Finkelstein’s crime was being an anti-Zionist, and that’s the reason he was not granted tenure.</i></p>
<p>Don&#8217;t be silly.  There are plenty of anti-Zionists on the staff of American universities, it&#8217;s not at all a controversial viewpoint &#8212; quite the opposite, in fact.</p>
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		<title>By: The Hasbara Buster</title>
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		<dc:creator>The Hasbara Buster</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 2009 22:13:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Finkelstein was denied tenure for being a poor scholar, weirdly behaved on campus and rubbish at the administrative part of an academic’s job, something someone on tenure track usually pays great attention to.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

DePaul gave a number of contradictory reasons for the denial. At one point, Charles Suchar, the dean of DePaul’s College of Arts and Sciences, even stated that:

&lt;blockquote&gt;“My own estimation of the tone and substance of his scholarship is that a considerable amount of it is inconsistent with DePaul’s Vincentian values, most particularly our institutional commitment to respect the dignity of the individual and to respect the rights of others to hold and express different intellectual positions—what I take to be one significant meaning of what we term Vincentian “personalism” as well as our commitment to diversity.”&lt;/blockquote&gt; 

In other words, the reason he gave for the denial is that Finkelstein was not nice to Dershowitz! When, in fact, thousands of scholars in the social sciences --and even in the hard sciences-- have been nasty toward their colleagues.

Finkelstein&#039;s crime was being an anti-Zionist, and that&#039;s the reason he was not granted tenure. 

Vincentian values! My foot.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Finkelstein was denied tenure for being a poor scholar, weirdly behaved on campus and rubbish at the administrative part of an academic’s job, something someone on tenure track usually pays great attention to.</p></blockquote>
<p>DePaul gave a number of contradictory reasons for the denial. At one point, Charles Suchar, the dean of DePaul’s College of Arts and Sciences, even stated that:</p>
<blockquote><p>“My own estimation of the tone and substance of his scholarship is that a considerable amount of it is inconsistent with DePaul’s Vincentian values, most particularly our institutional commitment to respect the dignity of the individual and to respect the rights of others to hold and express different intellectual positions—what I take to be one significant meaning of what we term Vincentian “personalism” as well as our commitment to diversity.”</p></blockquote>
<p>In other words, the reason he gave for the denial is that Finkelstein was not nice to Dershowitz! When, in fact, thousands of scholars in the social sciences &#8211;and even in the hard sciences&#8211; have been nasty toward their colleagues.</p>
<p>Finkelstein&#8217;s crime was being an anti-Zionist, and that&#8217;s the reason he was not granted tenure. </p>
<p>Vincentian values! My foot.</p>
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		<title>By: Rostam Farrokhzadeh</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rostam Farrokhzadeh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 2009 19:25:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Its worth noting how the BBC carefully omits that the Islamic authorities have accused Ebadi of &quot;the crime&quot; of supporting Israel when seizing all her political case files. Ebadi uses these files in her often vain attempt to represent political prisoners in the Islamic courts.

Iranian raid on Ebadi condemned 
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle_east/7806195.stm

It is so typical of the BBC to whitewash the Islamic Republic. Here for instance is a typical BBC piece from less than a year ago by BBCs waste of space correspondant Pam O&#039;Toole on Ebadi &amp; Ahmadinejad. [Although in O&#039;Tooles defence she isnt any worse than Jim Muir &amp; Frances Harrison].

Iran orders laureate&#039;s protection 
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle_east/7349619.stm</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Its worth noting how the BBC carefully omits that the Islamic authorities have accused Ebadi of &#8220;the crime&#8221; of supporting Israel when seizing all her political case files. Ebadi uses these files in her often vain attempt to represent political prisoners in the Islamic courts.</p>
<p>Iranian raid on Ebadi condemned<br />
<a href="http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle_east/7806195.stm" rel="nofollow">http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle_east/7806195.stm</a></p>
<p>It is so typical of the BBC to whitewash the Islamic Republic. Here for instance is a typical BBC piece from less than a year ago by BBCs waste of space correspondant Pam O&#8217;Toole on Ebadi &amp; Ahmadinejad. [Although in O'Tooles defence she isnt any worse than Jim Muir &amp; Frances Harrison].</p>
<p>Iran orders laureate&#8217;s protection<br />
<a href="http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle_east/7349619.stm" rel="nofollow">http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle_east/7349619.stm</a></p>
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		<title>By: Rostam Farrokhzadeh</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rostam Farrokhzadeh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 2009 19:10:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;b&gt;Gaza &amp; Shirin Ebadi&lt;/b&gt;

Those uninitiated with the byzantine nature of Middle East politics are missing the bigger picture. 

What we are seeing are the first steps of a new dynamic in the MidEast. As the US withdraws from Iraq the two parties are jockeying to fill in the vaccum. On the one side we have the Islamists and on the other the a secular front. This has thrown up strange alliances  with Israel/Fatah/Egypt/Jordan/Saudi/Turkey vs Iran/Syria their proxies Hamas/Hezbollah. 

As Bush &amp; Olmert are both leaving office this window is bein g used to neutralise in part Hamas. In the long run i&#039;ll doubt its effectiveness - Islamism has to be confronted head on by muslims acting in their own self interest.

In Iran the crackdown has been more intense than reported in the Western media. Closing down of papers with the slightest dissident views isnt the only step the clerical facists have taken. Largely unreported but far more significant has been the raiding of the offices of activists like Shirin Ebadi and the personal attacks on her.

http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5iVp6OcsznLJpeFv8SenE_EhxIpmgD95D8T9O2

Earlier this month the Iranian authorities closed the Tehran office of the Human Rights Defenders Centre headed by Ms Ebadi, saying it had operated for eight years without permission. Ms Ebadi, a 61-year-old lawyer and human rights activist, became Iran&#039;s first Nobel Peace Prize winner in 2003.

Today her home was attacked by the same government hired mobs that have intimidated students and attcked various European legations.

http://edition.cnn.com/2009/WORLD/meast/01/01/iran.ebadi.nobel.office/

I see that the usual suspects - HPhypocrite and the rest of the &quot;Anti-Zionist&quot; (anti-semetic) front as usual do not give a fig about the supression of free thought and speech in Iran by the facist Islamic clerics. 

The reactionary Left remain true to their thuggish racist roots.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><b>Gaza &amp; Shirin Ebadi</b></p>
<p>Those uninitiated with the byzantine nature of Middle East politics are missing the bigger picture. </p>
<p>What we are seeing are the first steps of a new dynamic in the MidEast. As the US withdraws from Iraq the two parties are jockeying to fill in the vaccum. On the one side we have the Islamists and on the other the a secular front. This has thrown up strange alliances  with Israel/Fatah/Egypt/Jordan/Saudi/Turkey vs Iran/Syria their proxies Hamas/Hezbollah. </p>
<p>As Bush &amp; Olmert are both leaving office this window is bein g used to neutralise in part Hamas. In the long run i&#8217;ll doubt its effectiveness &#8211; Islamism has to be confronted head on by muslims acting in their own self interest.</p>
<p>In Iran the crackdown has been more intense than reported in the Western media. Closing down of papers with the slightest dissident views isnt the only step the clerical facists have taken. Largely unreported but far more significant has been the raiding of the offices of activists like Shirin Ebadi and the personal attacks on her.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5iVp6OcsznLJpeFv8SenE_EhxIpmgD95D8T9O2" rel="nofollow">http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5iVp6OcsznLJpeFv8SenE_EhxIpmgD95D8T9O2</a></p>
<p>Earlier this month the Iranian authorities closed the Tehran office of the Human Rights Defenders Centre headed by Ms Ebadi, saying it had operated for eight years without permission. Ms Ebadi, a 61-year-old lawyer and human rights activist, became Iran&#8217;s first Nobel Peace Prize winner in 2003.</p>
<p>Today her home was attacked by the same government hired mobs that have intimidated students and attcked various European legations.</p>
<p><a href="http://edition.cnn.com/2009/WORLD/meast/01/01/iran.ebadi.nobel.office/" rel="nofollow">http://edition.cnn.com/2009/WORLD/meast/01/01/iran.ebadi.nobel.office/</a></p>
<p>I see that the usual suspects &#8211; HPhypocrite and the rest of the &#8220;Anti-Zionist&#8221; (anti-semetic) front as usual do not give a fig about the supression of free thought and speech in Iran by the facist Islamic clerics. </p>
<p>The reactionary Left remain true to their thuggish racist roots.</p>
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		<title>By: Nearly Oxfordian</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nearly Oxfordian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 2009 17:52:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;shriber
“Name one paper or media outlet shut down for criticizing Israel!”

http://www.wsws.org/articles/2006/nov2006/judt-n01.shtml
&lt;/i&gt;

You and HB are such mega-losers. You don&#039;t know what &#039;paper&#039; and &#039;media outlet&#039; mean, do you? No wonder you frequent such pathetic &#039;socialist&#039; websites.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>shriber<br />
“Name one paper or media outlet shut down for criticizing Israel!”</p>
<p><a href="http://www.wsws.org/articles/2006/nov2006/judt-n01.shtml" rel="nofollow">http://www.wsws.org/articles/2006/nov2006/judt-n01.shtml</a><br />
</i></p>
<p>You and HB are such mega-losers. You don&#8217;t know what &#8216;paper&#8217; and &#8216;media outlet&#8217; mean, do you? No wonder you frequent such pathetic &#8217;socialist&#8217; websites.</p>
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		<title>By: Nearly Oxfordian</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nearly Oxfordian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 2009 17:49:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Cheese straws???? Yuck.

Ruining perfectly good hummus with this cheese-style-foodstuff monstrosity??? Mega-yuck.

Only white-flour pitta deserves to be dipped in hummus. With olives and hamutzim on the side, of course.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Cheese straws???? Yuck.</p>
<p>Ruining perfectly good hummus with this cheese-style-foodstuff monstrosity??? Mega-yuck.</p>
<p>Only white-flour pitta deserves to be dipped in hummus. With olives and hamutzim on the side, of course.</p>
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		<title>By: wardytron</title>
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		<dc:creator>wardytron</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 2009 17:00:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;b&gt;And&lt;/b&gt; using a preposition to end a sentence with.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><b>And</b> using a preposition to end a sentence with.</p>
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		<title>By: M o r g o t h</title>
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		<dc:creator>M o r g o t h</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 2009 00:50:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;Thank God for that. I love me some hummus to dip cheese straws into.&lt;/i&gt;

You fucking barbarian.

&lt;I&gt;Cheese Straws, &lt;/i&gt; for fuck&#039;s sake....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Thank God for that. I love me some hummus to dip cheese straws into.</i></p>
<p>You fucking barbarian.</p>
<p><i>Cheese Straws, </i> for fuck&#8217;s sake&#8230;.</p>
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