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		<title>By: Comstock</title>
		<link>http://hurryupharry.org/2008/12/30/time-for-israel-to-stop/comment-page-4/#comment-276795</link>
		<dc:creator>Comstock</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Jan 2009 01:52:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>or fatah, could have devoted their energies to creating a functional state and improving the lives of their people; instead, they chose to devote much of their energy to firing rockets at israelis. That was their choice and they are paying for it.

You stupid silly man! 
Mamma Mia, here I go again, I believe in angels something good in everyone!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>or fatah, could have devoted their energies to creating a functional state and improving the lives of their people; instead, they chose to devote much of their energy to firing rockets at israelis. That was their choice and they are paying for it.</p>
<p>You stupid silly man!<br />
Mamma Mia, here I go again, I believe in angels something good in everyone!</p>
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		<title>By: Settler</title>
		<link>http://hurryupharry.org/2008/12/30/time-for-israel-to-stop/comment-page-4/#comment-274700</link>
		<dc:creator>Settler</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Dec 2008 20:40:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Gosh, Peter Falk, you shure do know thet intulektal stuff. 

Does all thet mean thet them Jews are gittin too big fer ther britches, and need a good switchin?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gosh, Peter Falk, you shure do know thet intulektal stuff. </p>
<p>Does all thet mean thet them Jews are gittin too big fer ther britches, and need a good switchin?</p>
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		<title>By: vildechaye</title>
		<link>http://hurryupharry.org/2008/12/30/time-for-israel-to-stop/comment-page-4/#comment-274599</link>
		<dc:creator>vildechaye</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Dec 2008 17:18:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;armchair warrior coward&quot; &quot;empty life&quot;: ah the psychologist speaks. wonder where you got your degree or qualifications. anyway, people don&#039;t deserve to die because of who they vote for. however, if they vote for a govt that then decides to relentlessly flick bombs at its neighbor, who is much stronger than it, they might expect a harsh response. where&#039;s the armchair warrior in that; where&#039;s the coward? instead of flicking off rockets at israel (which you seem to approve of since you haven&#039;t said boo against it, you armchair warrior coward you), why doesn&#039;t the gaza &quot;govt&quot; negotiate? And why did they pull the tail of the Israeli wolf when they couldn&#039;t kill it? you never did answer that one, which is the key to the entire affair?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;armchair warrior coward&#8221; &#8220;empty life&#8221;: ah the psychologist speaks. wonder where you got your degree or qualifications. anyway, people don&#8217;t deserve to die because of who they vote for. however, if they vote for a govt that then decides to relentlessly flick bombs at its neighbor, who is much stronger than it, they might expect a harsh response. where&#8217;s the armchair warrior in that; where&#8217;s the coward? instead of flicking off rockets at israel (which you seem to approve of since you haven&#8217;t said boo against it, you armchair warrior coward you), why doesn&#8217;t the gaza &#8220;govt&#8221; negotiate? And why did they pull the tail of the Israeli wolf when they couldn&#8217;t kill it? you never did answer that one, which is the key to the entire affair?</p>
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		<title>By: Peter Falk</title>
		<link>http://hurryupharry.org/2008/12/30/time-for-israel-to-stop/comment-page-4/#comment-274592</link>
		<dc:creator>Peter Falk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Dec 2008 17:10:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Statement by Prof. Richard Falk, United Nations Special Rapporteur for Human Rights in the Occupied Territories

The Israeli airstrikes on the Gaza Strip represent severe and massive violations of international humanitarian law as defined in the Geneva Conventions, both in regard to the obligations of an Occupying Power and in the requirements of the laws of war. 

 

Those violations include: 

 

Collective punishment - the entire 1.5 million people who live in the crowded Gaza Strip are being punished for the actions of a few militants. 

 

Targeting civilians - the airstrikes were aimed at civilian areas in one of the most crowded stretches of land in the world, certainly the most densely populated area of the Middle East. 

 

Disproportionate military response - the airstrikes have not only destroyed every police and security office of Gaza&#039;s elected government, but have killed and injured hundreds of civilians; at least one strike reportedly hit groups of students attempting to find transportation home from the university. 

 

Earlier Israeli actions, specifically the complete sealing off of entry and exit to and from the Gaza Strip, have led to severe shortages of medicine and fuel (as well as food), resulting in the inability of ambulances to respond to the injured, the inability of hospitals to adequately provide medicine or necessary equipment for the injured, and the inability of Gaza&#039;s besieged doctors and other medical workers to sufficiently treat the victims. 

 

Certainly the rocket attacks against civilian targets in Israel are unlawful. But that illegality does not give rise to any Israeli right, neither as the Occupying Power nor as a sovereign state, to violate international humanitarian law and commit war crimes or crimes against humanity in its response. I note that Israel&#039;s escalating military assaults have not made Israeli civilians safer; to the contrary, the one Israeli killed today after the upsurge of Israeli violence is the first in over a year. 

 

Israel has also ignored recent Hamas&#039; diplomatic initiatives to reestablish the truce or ceasefire since its expiration on 26 December. 

 

The Israeli airstrikes today, and the catastrophic human toll that they caused, challenge those countries that have been and remain complicit, either directly or indirectly, in Israel&#039;s violations of international law. That complicity includes those countries knowingly providing the military equipment including warplanes and missiles used in these illegal attacks, as well as those countries who have supported and participated in the siege of Gaza that itself has caused a humanitarian catastrophe. 

 

I remind all member states of the United Nations that the UN continues to be bound to an independent obligation to protect any civilian population facing massive violations of international humanitarian law - regardless of what country may be responsible for those violations. I call on all Member States, as well as officials and every relevant organ of the United Nations system, to move on an emergency basis not only to condemn Israel&#039;s serious violations, but to develop new approaches to providing real protection for the Palestinian people.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Statement by Prof. Richard Falk, United Nations Special Rapporteur for Human Rights in the Occupied Territories</p>
<p>The Israeli airstrikes on the Gaza Strip represent severe and massive violations of international humanitarian law as defined in the Geneva Conventions, both in regard to the obligations of an Occupying Power and in the requirements of the laws of war. </p>
<p>Those violations include: </p>
<p>Collective punishment &#8211; the entire 1.5 million people who live in the crowded Gaza Strip are being punished for the actions of a few militants. </p>
<p>Targeting civilians &#8211; the airstrikes were aimed at civilian areas in one of the most crowded stretches of land in the world, certainly the most densely populated area of the Middle East. </p>
<p>Disproportionate military response &#8211; the airstrikes have not only destroyed every police and security office of Gaza&#8217;s elected government, but have killed and injured hundreds of civilians; at least one strike reportedly hit groups of students attempting to find transportation home from the university. </p>
<p>Earlier Israeli actions, specifically the complete sealing off of entry and exit to and from the Gaza Strip, have led to severe shortages of medicine and fuel (as well as food), resulting in the inability of ambulances to respond to the injured, the inability of hospitals to adequately provide medicine or necessary equipment for the injured, and the inability of Gaza&#8217;s besieged doctors and other medical workers to sufficiently treat the victims. </p>
<p>Certainly the rocket attacks against civilian targets in Israel are unlawful. But that illegality does not give rise to any Israeli right, neither as the Occupying Power nor as a sovereign state, to violate international humanitarian law and commit war crimes or crimes against humanity in its response. I note that Israel&#8217;s escalating military assaults have not made Israeli civilians safer; to the contrary, the one Israeli killed today after the upsurge of Israeli violence is the first in over a year. </p>
<p>Israel has also ignored recent Hamas&#8217; diplomatic initiatives to reestablish the truce or ceasefire since its expiration on 26 December. </p>
<p>The Israeli airstrikes today, and the catastrophic human toll that they caused, challenge those countries that have been and remain complicit, either directly or indirectly, in Israel&#8217;s violations of international law. That complicity includes those countries knowingly providing the military equipment including warplanes and missiles used in these illegal attacks, as well as those countries who have supported and participated in the siege of Gaza that itself has caused a humanitarian catastrophe. </p>
<p>I remind all member states of the United Nations that the UN continues to be bound to an independent obligation to protect any civilian population facing massive violations of international humanitarian law &#8211; regardless of what country may be responsible for those violations. I call on all Member States, as well as officials and every relevant organ of the United Nations system, to move on an emergency basis not only to condemn Israel&#8217;s serious violations, but to develop new approaches to providing real protection for the Palestinian people.</p>
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		<title>By: gev pearce</title>
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		<dc:creator>gev pearce</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Dec 2008 10:24:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>By the tone of your posts you obviously suffer from Jerusalem Syndrome.
So you vote for an organisation, you deserve to die.
Interesting.
I would rather be peacenick than armchair warrior coward like yourself . Who enjoys conflict because of his empty life.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>By the tone of your posts you obviously suffer from Jerusalem Syndrome.<br />
So you vote for an organisation, you deserve to die.<br />
Interesting.<br />
I would rather be peacenick than armchair warrior coward like yourself . Who enjoys conflict because of his empty life.</p>
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		<title>By: vildechaye</title>
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		<dc:creator>vildechaye</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Dec 2008 08:56:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>and my faux peacenik friend, what on earth was in my original post that would make you call me &quot;paranoid.&quot; Is that just a stock word you use for individuals with different views, or is it &quot;paranoid&quot; to be concerned about dozens of rockets launched daily? As steely dan once wrote, only a fool would say that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>and my faux peacenik friend, what on earth was in my original post that would make you call me &#8220;paranoid.&#8221; Is that just a stock word you use for individuals with different views, or is it &#8220;paranoid&#8221; to be concerned about dozens of rockets launched daily? As steely dan once wrote, only a fool would say that.</p>
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		<title>By: vildechaye</title>
		<link>http://hurryupharry.org/2008/12/30/time-for-israel-to-stop/comment-page-4/#comment-274309</link>
		<dc:creator>vildechaye</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Dec 2008 08:45:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What an insulting creep you are. I was of course referring to the Gaza government, not the people. Though it&#039;s fair to say that since they elected Hamas, they do share some responsibility.

War mongering fool? How would you know? That would be as silly as me calling you a brain-dead faux peacenik. no wait, that isn&#039;t silly at all.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What an insulting creep you are. I was of course referring to the Gaza government, not the people. Though it&#8217;s fair to say that since they elected Hamas, they do share some responsibility.</p>
<p>War mongering fool? How would you know? That would be as silly as me calling you a brain-dead faux peacenik. no wait, that isn&#8217;t silly at all.</p>
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		<title>By: gev pearce</title>
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		<dc:creator>gev pearce</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Dec 2008 08:20:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Obviously, the Israelis are more powerful (thank god) and can do more damage. The German V-1s and V-2s didn’t kill nearly as many Londoners as the Brits and Americans killed Germans by bombing; does that make the Germans the good guys? Come on, even you’re not that dumb. Once you get past all the rhetoric,
Doesn&#039;t make the Allies good guys either, for instance Dresden?


 the bottom line is this: the gazans and their govt, whether hamas or fatah, could have devoted their energies to creating a functional state and improving the lives of their people; instead, they chose to devote much of their energy to firing rockets at israelis. That was their choice and they are paying for it.

Also you find most Palestinians, like most Brits, like most Israelis devote most of the energy into their work and bringing up families. 
Only paranoid war mongering fools like you, think different</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Obviously, the Israelis are more powerful (thank god) and can do more damage. The German V-1s and V-2s didn’t kill nearly as many Londoners as the Brits and Americans killed Germans by bombing; does that make the Germans the good guys? Come on, even you’re not that dumb. Once you get past all the rhetoric,<br />
Doesn&#8217;t make the Allies good guys either, for instance Dresden?</p>
<p> the bottom line is this: the gazans and their govt, whether hamas or fatah, could have devoted their energies to creating a functional state and improving the lives of their people; instead, they chose to devote much of their energy to firing rockets at israelis. That was their choice and they are paying for it.</p>
<p>Also you find most Palestinians, like most Brits, like most Israelis devote most of the energy into their work and bringing up families.<br />
Only paranoid war mongering fools like you, think different</p>
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		<title>By: gev pearce</title>
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		<dc:creator>gev pearce</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Dec 2008 08:03:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Has anyone watched any of the videos of Israeli precision bombs with bomb-cam’s? Many of them went straight through the windows of buildings like we saw in the Gulf War briefings.

My fave is the night-sight cross-hairs over a truck loaded with over 100 missiles being unloaded by five or six Hamas guys. Boom! Poetic justice!

You have serious psychological problems. 
To enjoy the deaths of other humans shows psychotic tendencies.
Also those are pictures they want you to see, not the ones that killed innocents</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Has anyone watched any of the videos of Israeli precision bombs with bomb-cam’s? Many of them went straight through the windows of buildings like we saw in the Gulf War briefings.</p>
<p>My fave is the night-sight cross-hairs over a truck loaded with over 100 missiles being unloaded by five or six Hamas guys. Boom! Poetic justice!</p>
<p>You have serious psychological problems.<br />
To enjoy the deaths of other humans shows psychotic tendencies.<br />
Also those are pictures they want you to see, not the ones that killed innocents</p>
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		<title>By: Comstock</title>
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		<dc:creator>Comstock</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Dec 2008 07:01:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Whlist this analysis, like Aaronovitch’s, is heavily biased and full of factual inaccuracies, its conclusion is at least consistent with what I’ve been saying since this thing started.......

What sort of topsy-turvy approach to research allows conclusions to be drawn from methodology taken to be fatally flawed? An opportunistic fundamentally untrustworthy approach, of course......

Just about sums up our approaches to climate change, multicultralism, islamism  and most other trendy  isms.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Whlist this analysis, like Aaronovitch’s, is heavily biased and full of factual inaccuracies, its conclusion is at least consistent with what I’ve been saying since this thing started&#8230;&#8230;.</p>
<p>What sort of topsy-turvy approach to research allows conclusions to be drawn from methodology taken to be fatally flawed? An opportunistic fundamentally untrustworthy approach, of course&#8230;&#8230;</p>
<p>Just about sums up our approaches to climate change, multicultralism, islamism  and most other trendy  isms.</p>
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