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		<title>By: li'l dickie</title>
		<link>http://hurryupharry.org/2008/12/08/im-only-seeing-it-now/comment-page-2/#comment-268624</link>
		<dc:creator>li'l dickie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Dec 2008 11:59:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Little Dickie Silverstein Marching Song

I am a little kapo,
It makes my mommy mad,
Cause when I am a kapo,
Those Zionists get sad!

I celebrate the jihad,
and terror all the while,
I fill my blog and web page,
With loud salutes of Sieg Heil!

I want to see them Zraelis,
All dumped out in the sea,
My swastika a waving,
Cause everything&#039;s bout me.

(from the Kapostein blog)</description>
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<p>I am a little kapo,<br />
It makes my mommy mad,<br />
Cause when I am a kapo,<br />
Those Zionists get sad!</p>
<p>I celebrate the jihad,<br />
and terror all the while,<br />
I fill my blog and web page,<br />
With loud salutes of Sieg Heil!</p>
<p>I want to see them Zraelis,<br />
All dumped out in the sea,<br />
My swastika a waving,<br />
Cause everything&#8217;s bout me.</p>
<p>(from the Kapostein blog)</p>
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		<title>By: MITNAGED</title>
		<link>http://hurryupharry.org/2008/12/08/im-only-seeing-it-now/comment-page-2/#comment-265256</link>
		<dc:creator>MITNAGED</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Dec 2008 12:30:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Shriber of course you are right and Islamists&#039; rhetoric, backed up by behaviour, have proved this again and again.   We will defeat jihadism/Islamism only when we perceive it through its own brutal and uncompromising lens rather than our rose-tinted, westernised spectacles, and act to stop it in its tracks.

We need to make ourselves aware of the way in which it functions, how it inserts itself and uses our own pluralistic, democratic values against us in order to better itself and expand.

The debate at the following link, between liberal Muslim philosopher, Tarek Heggy, and Tariq Ramadan, the (allegedly) presentable face of extremism, sums it all up for me.  Notice particularly Ramadan&#039;s weaseling and how Heggy picks him up on it.

http://www.ahewar.org/eng/show.art.asp?aid=658</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Shriber of course you are right and Islamists&#8217; rhetoric, backed up by behaviour, have proved this again and again.   We will defeat jihadism/Islamism only when we perceive it through its own brutal and uncompromising lens rather than our rose-tinted, westernised spectacles, and act to stop it in its tracks.</p>
<p>We need to make ourselves aware of the way in which it functions, how it inserts itself and uses our own pluralistic, democratic values against us in order to better itself and expand.</p>
<p>The debate at the following link, between liberal Muslim philosopher, Tarek Heggy, and Tariq Ramadan, the (allegedly) presentable face of extremism, sums it all up for me.  Notice particularly Ramadan&#8217;s weaseling and how Heggy picks him up on it.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.ahewar.org/eng/show.art.asp?aid=658" rel="nofollow">http://www.ahewar.org/eng/show.art.asp?aid=658</a></p>
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		<title>By: shriber</title>
		<link>http://hurryupharry.org/2008/12/08/im-only-seeing-it-now/comment-page-2/#comment-265191</link>
		<dc:creator>shriber</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Dec 2008 05:13:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am not exaclty a fan of Camille Paglia but she had a very moving tribute to the dead Rabbi and his wife in Mumbai which shows she gets it. 



&quot;The tragic fate of so many innocent victims in Mumbai deserves our pity. But what should live in special infamy was the ruthless execution of the Lubavitcher rabbi, Gavriel Hertzberg, and his lovely wife, Rivka, who was 5 months pregnant. These were two idealistic young people of obvious warmth and humanity, who sought only to serve. The rescue by their Indian nanny of their orphaned 2-year-old son, Moshe, crying and smeared with his parents&#039; blood, is already legendary. Was this zeroing in on the Chabad Jewish Center in Mumbai about Israel, or was it simply a gruesome eruption of the medieval tradition of anti-Semitism? Why have Muslim organizations, very quick to protest insulting cartoons, been mostly silent about the atrocities in Mumbai?

The slaughter of the Hertzbergs and other Jews at Chabad House should be a wake-up call to Western liberals who believe that jihadism can be defeated through reason and happy talk....&quot;

http://www.salon.com/opinion/paglia/2008/12/10/hillary_mumbai/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am not exaclty a fan of Camille Paglia but she had a very moving tribute to the dead Rabbi and his wife in Mumbai which shows she gets it. </p>
<p>&#8220;The tragic fate of so many innocent victims in Mumbai deserves our pity. But what should live in special infamy was the ruthless execution of the Lubavitcher rabbi, Gavriel Hertzberg, and his lovely wife, Rivka, who was 5 months pregnant. These were two idealistic young people of obvious warmth and humanity, who sought only to serve. The rescue by their Indian nanny of their orphaned 2-year-old son, Moshe, crying and smeared with his parents&#8217; blood, is already legendary. Was this zeroing in on the Chabad Jewish Center in Mumbai about Israel, or was it simply a gruesome eruption of the medieval tradition of anti-Semitism? Why have Muslim organizations, very quick to protest insulting cartoons, been mostly silent about the atrocities in Mumbai?</p>
<p>The slaughter of the Hertzbergs and other Jews at Chabad House should be a wake-up call to Western liberals who believe that jihadism can be defeated through reason and happy talk&#8230;.&#8221;</p>
<p><a href="http://www.salon.com/opinion/paglia/2008/12/10/hillary_mumbai/" rel="nofollow">http://www.salon.com/opinion/paglia/2008/12/10/hillary_mumbai/</a></p>
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		<title>By: shriber</title>
		<link>http://hurryupharry.org/2008/12/08/im-only-seeing-it-now/comment-page-2/#comment-265161</link>
		<dc:creator>shriber</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Dec 2008 01:29:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Hmmm - debating Silverstein’s ideas reminds me of an one of the great philosophical problems of the past……shit or shinola?&quot;

The guy is a snake oil salesman.  A kind of Jewish Elmer Gantry.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Hmmm &#8211; debating Silverstein’s ideas reminds me of an one of the great philosophical problems of the past……shit or shinola?&#8221;</p>
<p>The guy is a snake oil salesman.  A kind of Jewish Elmer Gantry.</p>
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		<title>By: Sounds of Silence</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sounds of Silence</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Dec 2008 17:48:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hmmm - debating Silverstein&#039;s ideas reminds me of an one of the great philosophical problems of the past......shit or shinola?

But for those who insist on pursuing that question with him on his own site, here&#039;s a reminder of whay he appears just once on any given site, says something irritating and disappears again,

&quot;Hey, I just want to thank you folks, Engage and Petra Pitiful for getting into high moral dudgeon over my views of the attacks on Chabad House. You’ve sent my site stats through the roof. Perhaps a few of yr readers may even cotton on to some of my ideas while they visit.&quot;

Ladies and gentleman, alongside being a crackpot, he is also a charaltan. He is playing you all.

Good day.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hmmm &#8211; debating Silverstein&#8217;s ideas reminds me of an one of the great philosophical problems of the past&#8230;&#8230;shit or shinola?</p>
<p>But for those who insist on pursuing that question with him on his own site, here&#8217;s a reminder of whay he appears just once on any given site, says something irritating and disappears again,</p>
<p>&#8220;Hey, I just want to thank you folks, Engage and Petra Pitiful for getting into high moral dudgeon over my views of the attacks on Chabad House. You’ve sent my site stats through the roof. Perhaps a few of yr readers may even cotton on to some of my ideas while they visit.&#8221;</p>
<p>Ladies and gentleman, alongside being a crackpot, he is also a charaltan. He is playing you all.</p>
<p>Good day.</p>
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		<title>By: jane</title>
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		<dc:creator>jane</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Dec 2008 17:15:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>But still it&#039;s possible to deplore the actions of a state and not hate individuals living in it. The state and the individual are not the same thing.

As to who hates whom the most, I think actions speak louder than words. Having said this, reportage and news agendas have a habit of privileging certain events over others.

Let&#039;s count the numbers of people who&#039;ve died as a result of the violent actions of various regimes in, say, the 20th century. Or even in the first 8 years of the 21st. Then we can have a chart to look at and compare the worst offenders.

That should settle a lot of arguments about perspective and scale.

Then we could have a sensible discussion about ethics.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>But still it&#8217;s possible to deplore the actions of a state and not hate individuals living in it. The state and the individual are not the same thing.</p>
<p>As to who hates whom the most, I think actions speak louder than words. Having said this, reportage and news agendas have a habit of privileging certain events over others.</p>
<p>Let&#8217;s count the numbers of people who&#8217;ve died as a result of the violent actions of various regimes in, say, the 20th century. Or even in the first 8 years of the 21st. Then we can have a chart to look at and compare the worst offenders.</p>
<p>That should settle a lot of arguments about perspective and scale.</p>
<p>Then we could have a sensible discussion about ethics.</p>
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		<title>By: Robbins</title>
		<link>http://hurryupharry.org/2008/12/08/im-only-seeing-it-now/comment-page-2/#comment-264993</link>
		<dc:creator>Robbins</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Dec 2008 17:05:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To get a full flavor od Silverstein warped mind people should read his blog where he tries to justify his ignorant views by personally attacking anyone who posts there with a contrary opinion. 

A man less suited to practice tikkun olam I have never seen.







Here is a link to his thread&quot;



http://www.richardsilverstein.com/tikun_olam/2008/12/05/the-jewish-jihadis/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To get a full flavor od Silverstein warped mind people should read his blog where he tries to justify his ignorant views by personally attacking anyone who posts there with a contrary opinion. </p>
<p>A man less suited to practice tikkun olam I have never seen.</p>
<p>Here is a link to his thread&#8221;</p>
<p><a href="http://www.richardsilverstein.com/tikun_olam/2008/12/05/the-jewish-jihadis/" rel="nofollow">http://www.richardsilverstein.com/tikun_olam/2008/12/05/the-jewish-jihadis/</a></p>
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		<title>By: Robbins</title>
		<link>http://hurryupharry.org/2008/12/08/im-only-seeing-it-now/comment-page-2/#comment-264991</link>
		<dc:creator>Robbins</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Dec 2008 17:04:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To get a full flavor od Silverstein warped mind people should read his blog where he tries to justify his ignorant views by personally attacking anyone who posts there with a contrary opinion. 


A man less suited to practice tikkun olam I have never seen.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To get a full flavor od Silverstein warped mind people should read his blog where he tries to justify his ignorant views by personally attacking anyone who posts there with a contrary opinion. </p>
<p>A man less suited to practice tikkun olam I have never seen.</p>
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		<title>By: Saul</title>
		<link>http://hurryupharry.org/2008/12/08/im-only-seeing-it-now/comment-page-2/#comment-264921</link>
		<dc:creator>Saul</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Dec 2008 14:40:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A useful link for you: &quot;Lashkar-e-Taiba is part of the International Islamic Front for Jihad Against Jews and Crusaders (the Qaeda franchise).&quot; The group&#039;s leader has reportedly said: &quot;At this time our contest is Kashmir. Let&#039;s see when the time comes. Our struggle with the Jews is always there.&quot; http://www.nytimes.com/2008/12/08/opinion/08french.html?_r=1</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A useful link for you: &#8220;Lashkar-e-Taiba is part of the International Islamic Front for Jihad Against Jews and Crusaders (the Qaeda franchise).&#8221; The group&#8217;s leader has reportedly said: &#8220;At this time our contest is Kashmir. Let&#8217;s see when the time comes. Our struggle with the Jews is always there.&#8221; <a href="http://www.nytimes.com/2008/12/08/opinion/08french.html?_r=1" rel="nofollow">http://www.nytimes.com/2008/12/08/opinion/08french.html?_r=1</a></p>
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		<title>By: j.r.</title>
		<link>http://hurryupharry.org/2008/12/08/im-only-seeing-it-now/comment-page-2/#comment-264831</link>
		<dc:creator>j.r.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Dec 2008 12:30:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Would he ever display such condescending animosity to any other people?&lt;/blockquote&gt;
Yes unfortunately I think he is displaying a similar lack of respect towards muslims.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Would he ever display such condescending animosity to any other people?</p></blockquote>
<p>Yes unfortunately I think he is displaying a similar lack of respect towards muslims.</p>
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