Comments on: Shinseki appointment: a good omen http://hurryupharry.org/2008/12/07/shinseki-appointment-a-good-omen/ Liberty, if it means anything, is the right to tell people what they don't want to hear Fri, 10 Feb 2012 03:25:10 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: Mr Danger http://hurryupharry.org/2008/12/07/shinseki-appointment-a-good-omen/comment-page-1/#comment-264341 Mr Danger Mon, 08 Dec 2008 12:19:26 +0000 http://www.hurryupharry.org/2008/12/07/shinseki-appointment-a-good-omen/#comment-264341 Its a bit sad to see people still sticking to the Republican campaign's talking points now that the voting is long over. Come on, it was all just RNC election fun, you weren't really supposed to believe it. Anyway, the idea that Obama is some dunce who was guided to the presidency is itself moronic. It reminds me what people said about Bush in the early days. "He's not smart, he just has good advice". Does advice come in envelopes marked "good" and "bad"? Its a bit sad to see people still sticking to the Republican campaign’s talking points now that the voting is long over. Come on, it was all just RNC election fun, you weren’t really supposed to believe it.

Anyway, the idea that Obama is some dunce who was guided to the presidency is itself moronic. It reminds me what people said about Bush in the early days. “He’s not smart, he just has good advice”. Does advice come in envelopes marked “good” and “bad”?

]]> By: Josh Scholar http://hurryupharry.org/2008/12/07/shinseki-appointment-a-good-omen/comment-page-1/#comment-264173 Josh Scholar Mon, 08 Dec 2008 00:01:52 +0000 http://www.hurryupharry.org/2008/12/07/shinseki-appointment-a-good-omen/#comment-264173 I know all about "Ericksonian Hypnosis" Maven. When I was a kid I read every strange phase of psuedo-science books by Richard Bandler and John Grinder, from their PHD thesis on Virginia Satir's use of grammar (which is an odd academic way to completely miss the point of her therapy), their books on Milton Erickson and finally their strange NLP stuff. Yeah you can be somewhat persuasive by making analogies like Milton did or giving people a sense of perspective by reframing. I've been avoiding listening to all politicians lately, but I'm not worried that Obama is going to have Hitler's powers over crowds. I know all about “Ericksonian Hypnosis” Maven. When I was a kid I read every strange phase of psuedo-science books by Richard Bandler and John Grinder, from their PHD thesis on Virginia Satir’s use of grammar (which is an odd academic way to completely miss the point of her therapy), their books on Milton Erickson and finally their strange NLP stuff.

Yeah you can be somewhat persuasive by making analogies like Milton did or giving people a sense of perspective by reframing. I’ve been avoiding listening to all politicians lately, but I’m not worried that Obama is going to have Hitler’s powers over crowds.

]]> By: Stu http://hurryupharry.org/2008/12/07/shinseki-appointment-a-good-omen/comment-page-1/#comment-264165 Stu Sun, 07 Dec 2008 23:36:29 +0000 http://www.hurryupharry.org/2008/12/07/shinseki-appointment-a-good-omen/#comment-264165 Changing light bulbs = infrastructure construction (Uncle Barack's Dictionary of Newspeak) Changing light bulbs = infrastructure construction

(Uncle Barack’s Dictionary of Newspeak)

]]> By: Gene http://hurryupharry.org/2008/12/07/shinseki-appointment-a-good-omen/comment-page-1/#comment-264151 Gene Sun, 07 Dec 2008 22:33:05 +0000 http://www.hurryupharry.org/2008/12/07/shinseki-appointment-a-good-omen/#comment-264151 <i>Touchy, touchy, are we, Gene? Got to protect that image of the Obamassiah at every turn, eh? I dunno, Gene, perhaps you’d best peruse Obama’s latest musings about Capitalism and the auto industry during one of his re-distributionist “spread the wealth” moods on today’s “Meet the Press” before you wax condescending about my fantasies about Obama’s fantasizing.</i> You fantasize about Obama's fantasizing? I don't think I'm professionally qualified to comment about that. Despite your fantasies about me, I don't believe Obama is above criticism by any means. But OTT comments about him don't help your case. Touchy, touchy, are we, Gene? Got to protect that image of the Obamassiah at every turn, eh? I dunno, Gene, perhaps you’d best peruse Obama’s latest musings about Capitalism and the auto industry during one of his re-distributionist “spread the wealth” moods on today’s “Meet the Press” before you wax condescending about my fantasies about Obama’s fantasizing.

You fantasize about Obama’s fantasizing? I don’t think I’m professionally qualified to comment about that. Despite your fantasies about me, I don’t believe Obama is above criticism by any means. But OTT comments about him don’t help your case.

]]> By: mesquito http://hurryupharry.org/2008/12/07/shinseki-appointment-a-good-omen/comment-page-1/#comment-264148 mesquito Sun, 07 Dec 2008 22:21:18 +0000 http://www.hurryupharry.org/2008/12/07/shinseki-appointment-a-good-omen/#comment-264148 <em>Mesquito has hit upon THE key point...</em> It's a gift, really. :D Mesquito has hit upon THE key point…

It’s a gift, really. :D

]]> By: virgil xenophon http://hurryupharry.org/2008/12/07/shinseki-appointment-a-good-omen/comment-page-1/#comment-264144 virgil xenophon Sun, 07 Dec 2008 22:06:40 +0000 http://www.hurryupharry.org/2008/12/07/shinseki-appointment-a-good-omen/#comment-264144 "At some point private disagreements must resolve and an administration must put on a show of unity in public, unless Obama intends to run a seminar instead of a Presidency" Mesquito has hit upon THE key point, to my mind. I am always amused when Republican Presidents are accused by types like Gene of being surrounded by nothing but a tight, closed circle of yes men and not receiving the widest possible healthy range of views and proposed courses of action; yet when faced with emergency situations, the very same critics decry the "confusion" and "cacophony" of multiple voices and plead with Republican administrations to speak with "a single voice"--just like they are doing now regarding this financial meltdown. “At some point private disagreements must resolve and an administration must put on a show of unity in public, unless Obama intends to run a seminar instead of a Presidency”

Mesquito has hit upon THE key point, to my mind. I am always amused when Republican Presidents are accused by types like Gene of being surrounded by nothing but a tight, closed circle of yes men and not receiving the widest possible healthy range of views and proposed courses of action; yet when faced with emergency situations, the very same critics decry the “confusion” and “cacophony” of multiple voices and plead with Republican administrations to speak with “a single voice”–just like they are doing now regarding this financial meltdown.

]]> By: Maven http://hurryupharry.org/2008/12/07/shinseki-appointment-a-good-omen/comment-page-1/#comment-264133 Maven Sun, 07 Dec 2008 21:40:33 +0000 http://www.hurryupharry.org/2008/12/07/shinseki-appointment-a-good-omen/#comment-264133 If you want more on language patterns. persuasion and hypnosis then look at "Ericksonian Hypnosis" and spin-off's like "Conversational Hypnosis". I am NOT a wacko conspiracy theorist. I studied Ericksonian Hypnosis - I know what can be done. If you want more on language patterns. persuasion and hypnosis then look at “Ericksonian Hypnosis” and spin-off’s like “Conversational Hypnosis”. I am NOT a wacko conspiracy theorist. I studied Ericksonian Hypnosis – I know what can be done.

]]> By: Maven http://hurryupharry.org/2008/12/07/shinseki-appointment-a-good-omen/comment-page-1/#comment-264131 Maven Sun, 07 Dec 2008 21:38:05 +0000 http://www.hurryupharry.org/2008/12/07/shinseki-appointment-a-good-omen/#comment-264131 <i>Anyway it’s an ugly comment, and you don’t improve your image by saying things like that. Is Obama a cleaver darky for letting the money men lead him to the white house, is that it? Is he going to “pretend” to lead now, being as incapable of actually leading as he was of running a campaign because of his racial handicap? Is that what you meant?</i> No! Nowhere near it. I happen to think that Obama was chosen to be an almost perfect candidate and canvas. He has miniscule political experience in the Senate and was the right look as well as being a good speaker in the mould of a Clinton, for example. I could say things about his language patterns and why they were targetted to appeal and persuade. He is either a natural or has been well-coached. His speech hesitancy is actually great device for pacing his words and marking them. There will be studies made of his language patterns, you just wait. I absolutely DO believe he was stage managed to get to be President and race has zero to do with it, except to secure the Black vote. Someone did their sums. I don't think he expressed a principle or belief that he wasn't prepared to modify to appeal to opposite sides at the same time. Am I Bitter? No, I think that what got him to the White House will also be tough on terror and supportive of Israel. As a non-American its Foreign Policy that has the only affect on me. Obama no more gets a free ride than any other President. He was made to be President - literally! Anyway it’s an ugly comment, and you don’t improve your image by saying things like that. Is Obama a cleaver darky for letting the money men lead him to the white house, is that it? Is he going to “pretend” to lead now, being as incapable of actually leading as he was of running a campaign because of his racial handicap? Is that what you meant?

No! Nowhere near it. I happen to think that Obama was chosen to be an almost perfect candidate and canvas. He has miniscule political experience in the Senate and was the right look as well as being a good speaker in the mould of a Clinton, for example. I could say things about his language patterns and why they were targetted to appeal and persuade. He is either a natural or has been well-coached. His speech hesitancy is actually great device for pacing his words and marking them. There will be studies made of his language patterns, you just wait.

I absolutely DO believe he was stage managed to get to be President and race has zero to do with it, except to secure the Black vote. Someone did their sums. I don’t think he expressed a principle or belief that he wasn’t prepared to modify to appeal to opposite sides at the same time.

Am I Bitter? No, I think that what got him to the White House will also be tough on terror and supportive of Israel. As a non-American its Foreign Policy that has the only affect on me.

Obama no more gets a free ride than any other President. He was made to be President – literally!

]]> By: virgil xenophon http://hurryupharry.org/2008/12/07/shinseki-appointment-a-good-omen/comment-page-1/#comment-264129 virgil xenophon Sun, 07 Dec 2008 21:27:21 +0000 http://www.hurryupharry.org/2008/12/07/shinseki-appointment-a-good-omen/#comment-264129 PS to Gene: Besides, our compliment was "almost" thoughtful. PS to Gene: Besides, our compliment was “almost” thoughtful.

]]> By: virgil xenophon http://hurryupharry.org/2008/12/07/shinseki-appointment-a-good-omen/comment-page-1/#comment-264128 virgil xenophon Sun, 07 Dec 2008 21:22:22 +0000 http://www.hurryupharry.org/2008/12/07/shinseki-appointment-a-good-omen/#comment-264128 Touchy, touchy, are we, Gene? Got to protect that image of the Obamassiah at every turn, eh? I dunno, Gene, perhaps you'd best peruse Obama's latest musings about Capitalism and the auto industry during one of his re-distributionist "spread the wealth" moods on today's "Meet the Press" before you wax condescending about my fantasies about Obama's fantasizing. And thanks for the back-handed compliment--always only too glad for scraps from my intellectual bettors. Better to be damned with faint praise than nothing, right? Touchy, touchy, are we, Gene? Got to protect that image of the Obamassiah at every turn, eh? I dunno, Gene, perhaps you’d best peruse Obama’s latest musings about Capitalism and the auto industry during one of his re-distributionist “spread the wealth” moods on today’s “Meet the Press” before you wax condescending about my fantasies about Obama’s fantasizing.

And thanks for the back-handed compliment–always only too glad for scraps from my intellectual bettors. Better to be damned with faint praise than nothing, right?

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