Comments on: Should the UK abandon an independent civil service? http://hurryupharry.org/2008/12/04/should-the-uk-abandon-an-independent-civil-service/ Liberty, if it means anything, is the right to tell people what they don't want to hear Thu, 24 May 2012 21:02:42 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: M o r g o t h http://hurryupharry.org/2008/12/04/should-the-uk-abandon-an-independent-civil-service/comment-page-2/#comment-263131 M o r g o t h Thu, 04 Dec 2008 23:41:22 +0000 http://www.hurryupharry.org/2008/12/04/should-the-uk-abandon-an-independent-civil-service/#comment-263131 <i>This is just you playing up to your online stereotype, isn’t it? I mean, you’re not actually like this in real life, are you?</i> If completely fucking up the country and its prospects for the best part of the next century isn't worthy of the yardarm, I don't know what is. This is just you playing up to your online stereotype, isn’t it? I mean, you’re not actually like this in real life, are you?

If completely fucking up the country and its prospects for the best part of the next century isn’t worthy of the yardarm, I don’t know what is.

]]> By: Adam http://hurryupharry.org/2008/12/04/should-the-uk-abandon-an-independent-civil-service/comment-page-2/#comment-263028 Adam Thu, 04 Dec 2008 18:40:06 +0000 http://www.hurryupharry.org/2008/12/04/should-the-uk-abandon-an-independent-civil-service/#comment-263028 Greg, Alistair Campbell wasn't a civil servant, he was not employed or subject to head of the civil service. Like a lot of commentators however, i agree the civil service certainly isn't neutral. The debate over ID cards highlights the lack of neutrality, both sides disprove in opposition but suddenly change when in government. I wonder why?? Working in local government I certainly see the merit of senior officers either being elected or appointed by parties as at present they hide behind an air of neutrality that isn't really there. Greg, Alistair Campbell wasn’t a civil servant, he was not employed or subject to head of the civil service.

Like a lot of commentators however, i agree the civil service certainly isn’t neutral. The debate over ID cards highlights the lack of neutrality, both sides disprove in opposition but suddenly change when in government. I wonder why??

Working in local government I certainly see the merit of senior officers either being elected or appointed by parties as at present they hide behind an air of neutrality that isn’t really there.

]]> By: Brownie http://hurryupharry.org/2008/12/04/should-the-uk-abandon-an-independent-civil-service/comment-page-1/#comment-263007 Brownie Thu, 04 Dec 2008 18:03:58 +0000 http://www.hurryupharry.org/2008/12/04/should-the-uk-abandon-an-independent-civil-service/#comment-263007 <i>The Yardarm is too good for Labour cunts.</i> This is just you playing up to your online stereotype, isn't it? I mean, you're not actually like this in real life, are you? The Yardarm is too good for Labour cunts.

This is just you playing up to your online stereotype, isn’t it? I mean, you’re not actually like this in real life, are you?

]]> By: Guff Buster http://hurryupharry.org/2008/12/04/should-the-uk-abandon-an-independent-civil-service/comment-page-1/#comment-262995 Guff Buster Thu, 04 Dec 2008 17:35:06 +0000 http://www.hurryupharry.org/2008/12/04/should-the-uk-abandon-an-independent-civil-service/#comment-262995 Now Neil D is putting Morgoth in a camp. It's executive power gone mad, I tell you. Now Neil D is putting Morgoth in a camp.

It’s executive power gone mad, I tell you.

]]> By: Neil D http://hurryupharry.org/2008/12/04/should-the-uk-abandon-an-independent-civil-service/comment-page-1/#comment-262983 Neil D Thu, 04 Dec 2008 17:20:55 +0000 http://www.hurryupharry.org/2008/12/04/should-the-uk-abandon-an-independent-civil-service/#comment-262983 Morgoth: <blockquote>This current government has been far and away the most venal and corrupt government in the history of the United Kingdom.</blockquote> You do realise this puts you in the same mental camp as those who say things like Gitmo Bay is worse than the Gulags and that democratic governments are less democratic than places like Cuba? i.e. a raving fucking loon. Morgoth:

This current government has been far and away the most venal and corrupt government in the history of the United Kingdom.

You do realise this puts you in the same mental camp as those who say things like Gitmo Bay is worse than the Gulags and that democratic governments are less democratic than places like Cuba? i.e. a raving fucking loon.

]]> By: M o r g o t h http://hurryupharry.org/2008/12/04/should-the-uk-abandon-an-independent-civil-service/comment-page-1/#comment-262979 M o r g o t h Thu, 04 Dec 2008 16:59:04 +0000 http://www.hurryupharry.org/2008/12/04/should-the-uk-abandon-an-independent-civil-service/#comment-262979 <i>When asked why, he laughed: “Why do you think? As someone put it to me: think George Galloway.”</i> First time in my life I've ever agreed with that annoying gobshite (Baby Doc, that is). When asked why, he laughed: “Why do you think? As someone put it to me: think George Galloway.”

First time in my life I’ve ever agreed with that annoying gobshite (Baby Doc, that is).

]]> By: tim http://hurryupharry.org/2008/12/04/should-the-uk-abandon-an-independent-civil-service/comment-page-1/#comment-262974 tim Thu, 04 Dec 2008 16:47:09 +0000 http://www.hurryupharry.org/2008/12/04/should-the-uk-abandon-an-independent-civil-service/#comment-262974 O/T Top quote of the day <i>Ian Paisley Junior last night revealed that he had turned down the chance to take part in Bushtucker Trials in the jungle on the other side of the world. The DUP member of the Northern Irish Assembly who is never far from controversy was asked by the programme makers to take part in the current series of reality TV show I’m A Celebrity... Get Me Out of Here! However the DUP man said no. "Yes it is true, ” the North Antrim MLA told UTV last night, "but I tactfully declined.” When asked why, he laughed: "Why do you think? As someone put it to me: think George Galloway.”</i> O/T Top quote of the day

Ian Paisley Junior last night revealed that he had turned down the chance to take part in Bushtucker Trials in the jungle on the other side of the world.

The DUP member of the Northern Irish Assembly who is never far from controversy was asked by the programme makers to take part in the current series of reality TV show I’m A Celebrity… Get Me Out of Here!

However the DUP man said no.

“Yes it is true, ” the North Antrim MLA told UTV last night, “but I tactfully declined.”

When asked why, he laughed: “Why do you think? As someone put it to me: think George Galloway.”

]]> By: Brownie http://hurryupharry.org/2008/12/04/should-the-uk-abandon-an-independent-civil-service/comment-page-1/#comment-262971 Brownie Thu, 04 Dec 2008 16:44:21 +0000 http://www.hurryupharry.org/2008/12/04/should-the-uk-abandon-an-independent-civil-service/#comment-262971 <i>Not according to Brownie and his ilk. They seem to believe that parliament should be accoutable to the executive and helping it with its enquiries, which must not be prejudged until they are complete, the police being a law to themselves and the ultimate authority in the land, you understand.</i> Wear a hat in the sun, pal. Not according to Brownie and his ilk. They seem to believe that parliament should be accoutable to the executive and helping it with its enquiries, which must not be prejudged until they are complete, the police being a law to themselves and the ultimate authority in the land, you understand.

Wear a hat in the sun, pal.

]]> By: Brownie http://hurryupharry.org/2008/12/04/should-the-uk-abandon-an-independent-civil-service/comment-page-1/#comment-262970 Brownie Thu, 04 Dec 2008 16:43:31 +0000 http://www.hurryupharry.org/2008/12/04/should-the-uk-abandon-an-independent-civil-service/#comment-262970 <i>He’s party to a politically-motivated deception that is specifically designed to undermine the *elected* administration. </i> Reply: <i>Isn’t it the job, if not the duty, for opposition parties to undermine governing parties?</i> Yeah, I think the key point is that the politically-motivated deception is being orchestrated by someone whom we rely upon to to be independent. When an opposition MP is in cahoots with such a person, we should be bothered. He’s party to a politically-motivated deception that is specifically designed to undermine the *elected* administration.

Reply:

Isn’t it the job, if not the duty, for opposition parties to undermine governing parties?

Yeah, I think the key point is that the politically-motivated deception is being orchestrated by someone whom we rely upon to to be independent. When an opposition MP is in cahoots with such a person, we should be bothered.

]]> By: M o r g o t h http://hurryupharry.org/2008/12/04/should-the-uk-abandon-an-independent-civil-service/comment-page-1/#comment-262966 M o r g o t h Thu, 04 Dec 2008 16:33:35 +0000 http://www.hurryupharry.org/2008/12/04/should-the-uk-abandon-an-independent-civil-service/#comment-262966 <i>If we’re going to get into the whole business of past political misdemeanour’s then by all means let’s open up the entire shit can, in which case you can put me down straight away for a full public audit of the Tory Party’s finances and Lord Ashcroft’s tax records</i> A Labour stooge is a fine one to talk about party finances given pretty much the whole of Labour financing for the last two decades has been one illegal and corrupt act after another. Ecclestone, Hinduja Brothers, Mandleson (twice, soon to be a third), Cash for Questions, Keith Vaz and DOZENS of other Labour Sleeze incidents. This current government has been far and away the most venal and corrupt government in the history of the United Kingdom. Now, its not content with lying and smearing about anyone who gets in its way, its now having its political opponents arrested. The Yardarm is too good for Labour cunts. If we’re going to get into the whole business of past political misdemeanour’s then by all means let’s open up the entire shit can, in which case you can put me down straight away for a full public audit of the Tory Party’s finances and Lord Ashcroft’s tax records

A Labour stooge is a fine one to talk about party finances given pretty much the whole of Labour financing for the last two decades has been one illegal and corrupt act after another. Ecclestone, Hinduja Brothers, Mandleson (twice, soon to be a third), Cash for Questions, Keith Vaz and DOZENS of other Labour Sleeze incidents.

This current government has been far and away the most venal and corrupt government in the history of the United Kingdom. Now, its not content with lying and smearing about anyone who gets in its way, its now having its political opponents arrested.

The Yardarm is too good for Labour cunts.

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