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	<title>Comments on: British Islamist says Israeli children are legitimate targets</title>
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	<description>Liberty, if it means anything, is the right to tell people what they don&#039;t want to hear</description>
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		<title>By: The Barbara Duster</title>
		<link>http://hurryupharry.org/2008/11/24/british-islamist-says-israeli-children-are-legitimate-targets/comment-page-2/#comment-260295</link>
		<dc:creator>The Barbara Duster</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Nov 2008 22:41:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strike&gt;Jews&lt;/strike&gt; Zionists</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strike>Jews</strike> Zionists</p>
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		<title>By: Nearly Oxfordian</title>
		<link>http://hurryupharry.org/2008/11/24/british-islamist-says-israeli-children-are-legitimate-targets/comment-page-2/#comment-260262</link>
		<dc:creator>Nearly Oxfordian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Nov 2008 19:01:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;I am the lone voice here to remind readers that racism, hatred and bigotry are tolerated when they come from the mainstream.&lt;/i&gt;

I never realised that you labour under the delusion that you are &#039;the mainstream&#039;, sicko.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>I am the lone voice here to remind readers that racism, hatred and bigotry are tolerated when they come from the mainstream.</i></p>
<p>I never realised that you labour under the delusion that you are &#8216;the mainstream&#8217;, sicko.</p>
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		<title>By: Nearly Oxfordian</title>
		<link>http://hurryupharry.org/2008/11/24/british-islamist-says-israeli-children-are-legitimate-targets/comment-page-2/#comment-260261</link>
		<dc:creator>Nearly Oxfordian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Nov 2008 18:55:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;Mind you if the ghastly old broad stuck a bag over her head it would be a mitzvah&lt;/i&gt;

What a dumb, sexist wanker you are.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Mind you if the ghastly old broad stuck a bag over her head it would be a mitzvah</i></p>
<p>What a dumb, sexist wanker you are.</p>
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		<title>By: Zkharya</title>
		<link>http://hurryupharry.org/2008/11/24/british-islamist-says-israeli-children-are-legitimate-targets/comment-page-2/#comment-260245</link>
		<dc:creator>Zkharya</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Nov 2008 17:29:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Barbara Duster has a complex the size of mount everest: he&#039;s just a walking set of neuroses (clearly about Jews, but now there&#039;s a sexual thing too). He&#039;d be a psychoanalyst&#039;s dream if he wasn&#039;t so self-obsessessed to sort himself out.

Poor guy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Barbara Duster has a complex the size of mount everest: he&#8217;s just a walking set of neuroses (clearly about Jews, but now there&#8217;s a sexual thing too). He&#8217;d be a psychoanalyst&#8217;s dream if he wasn&#8217;t so self-obsessessed to sort himself out.</p>
<p>Poor guy.</p>
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		<title>By: Zkharya</title>
		<link>http://hurryupharry.org/2008/11/24/british-islamist-says-israeli-children-are-legitimate-targets/comment-page-2/#comment-260244</link>
		<dc:creator>Zkharya</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Nov 2008 17:27:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Child abuse by rabbis, on the other hand, is not as widely reported on.&quot;

There have been plenty of reports on rabbis prosecuted for child abuse.

But there is also a strand of opinion that the insistance on celibacy in the Roman Catholic church inevitably leads to the suppression of nonetheless existing sexual desires which, if not inevitably, then more probably, express them at covert oportunities, with vulnerable people, such as children, with whom priests have been entrusted, often in privacy.

The Talmud stipulates that all rabbis should be married precisely so they do not fall into temptation of illicit sexual activity. Statistics suggest that people in stable and fulfilled sexual relationships are less likely to pursue &#039;deviant&#039; ones, and I use the word &#039;deviant&#039; in a purely technical one i.e. deviating from sexual congress within marriage or a stable relationship.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Child abuse by rabbis, on the other hand, is not as widely reported on.&#8221;</p>
<p>There have been plenty of reports on rabbis prosecuted for child abuse.</p>
<p>But there is also a strand of opinion that the insistance on celibacy in the Roman Catholic church inevitably leads to the suppression of nonetheless existing sexual desires which, if not inevitably, then more probably, express them at covert oportunities, with vulnerable people, such as children, with whom priests have been entrusted, often in privacy.</p>
<p>The Talmud stipulates that all rabbis should be married precisely so they do not fall into temptation of illicit sexual activity. Statistics suggest that people in stable and fulfilled sexual relationships are less likely to pursue &#8216;deviant&#8217; ones, and I use the word &#8216;deviant&#8217; in a purely technical one i.e. deviating from sexual congress within marriage or a stable relationship.</p>
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		<title>By: Mark T</title>
		<link>http://hurryupharry.org/2008/11/24/british-islamist-says-israeli-children-are-legitimate-targets/comment-page-2/#comment-260085</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark T</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Nov 2008 10:23:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;“We’re morally superior” is an absolute statement.&lt;/i&gt;

No it is not, you tedious berk. 

If, after a football match, the captain of the winning team is asked why they won, and he replies &quot;we were superior,&quot; is he claiming that his football team is the most superior in the entire world? 

Give it a rest, for fuck&#039;s sake.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>“We’re morally superior” is an absolute statement.</i></p>
<p>No it is not, you tedious berk. </p>
<p>If, after a football match, the captain of the winning team is asked why they won, and he replies &#8220;we were superior,&#8221; is he claiming that his football team is the most superior in the entire world? </p>
<p>Give it a rest, for fuck&#8217;s sake.</p>
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		<title>By: The Hasbara Buster</title>
		<link>http://hurryupharry.org/2008/11/24/british-islamist-says-israeli-children-are-legitimate-targets/comment-page-2/#comment-260018</link>
		<dc:creator>The Hasbara Buster</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Nov 2008 02:15:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;We&#039;re morally superior&quot; is an absolute statement. If he had wanted to say that they are superior to Samir Kuntar and Hizbullah only, he would have said &quot;we&#039;re morally superior to them.&quot;

Further, he says &quot;we are superior, so superior that the revelation of immoral conduct came from us, not from you;&quot; this can only be construed as a statement of superiority with respect to Israel&#039;s critics (&quot;you&quot;), not to Kuntar and Hizbullah.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;We&#8217;re morally superior&#8221; is an absolute statement. If he had wanted to say that they are superior to Samir Kuntar and Hizbullah only, he would have said &#8220;we&#8217;re morally superior to them.&#8221;</p>
<p>Further, he says &#8220;we are superior, so superior that the revelation of immoral conduct came from us, not from you;&#8221; this can only be construed as a statement of superiority with respect to Israel&#8217;s critics (&#8220;you&#8221;), not to Kuntar and Hizbullah.</p>
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		<title>By: Mark T</title>
		<link>http://hurryupharry.org/2008/11/24/british-islamist-says-israeli-children-are-legitimate-targets/comment-page-2/#comment-259923</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark T</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Nov 2008 22:42:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;No. He says “you know that we are morally superior and therefore demand from us what you don’t demand from others.” He does not restrict the moral superiority to Kuntar; Israel is morally superior to “others.”&lt;/i&gt;

Are you mad? 

The passage quite clearly compares the journalistic response to the welcome Kuntar received in Lebanon, to the journalistic response to the rubber bullet incident. 

Weinstein believes (correctly or not) that the disparity in the coverage can only mean  that journalists hold Israeli soldiers to higher moral standards than Kuntar and those who welcomed him.

The &quot;others&quot; in this sense can only be those who indulged in &quot;he glorification of someone who beat a four year old girl to death.&quot;

The passage makes absolutely no sense otherwise.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>No. He says “you know that we are morally superior and therefore demand from us what you don’t demand from others.” He does not restrict the moral superiority to Kuntar; Israel is morally superior to “others.”</i></p>
<p>Are you mad? </p>
<p>The passage quite clearly compares the journalistic response to the welcome Kuntar received in Lebanon, to the journalistic response to the rubber bullet incident. </p>
<p>Weinstein believes (correctly or not) that the disparity in the coverage can only mean  that journalists hold Israeli soldiers to higher moral standards than Kuntar and those who welcomed him.</p>
<p>The &#8220;others&#8221; in this sense can only be those who indulged in &#8220;he glorification of someone who beat a four year old girl to death.&#8221;</p>
<p>The passage makes absolutely no sense otherwise.</p>
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		<title>By: Mark T</title>
		<link>http://hurryupharry.org/2008/11/24/british-islamist-says-israeli-children-are-legitimate-targets/comment-page-2/#comment-259916</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark T</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Nov 2008 22:30:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So never mind the fact that Weinstein was only claiming that Israeli soldiers are morally superior to Samir Kuntar, and that is tacitly admitted by journalists who disproportionately cover the misdeeds of the former compared to the latter.

There is no link, btw - not that this discussion about RAI is in any way relevant to your rather attempts to justify your obsessive focus on Israel.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So never mind the fact that Weinstein was only claiming that Israeli soldiers are morally superior to Samir Kuntar, and that is tacitly admitted by journalists who disproportionately cover the misdeeds of the former compared to the latter.</p>
<p>There is no link, btw &#8211; not that this discussion about RAI is in any way relevant to your rather attempts to justify your obsessive focus on Israel.</p>
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		<title>By: The Hasbara Buster</title>
		<link>http://hurryupharry.org/2008/11/24/british-islamist-says-israeli-children-are-legitimate-targets/comment-page-2/#comment-259912</link>
		<dc:creator>The Hasbara Buster</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Nov 2008 22:20:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;The author is arguing that the relatively large amount of news space the rubber bullet shooting took up, compared to the welcome given to Samir Kuntar, is in fact a tacit admission on the part of journalists and their editors that Israeli soldiers are more morally superior to the likes of the aforementioned child-killer.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

No. He says &quot;you know that we are morally superior and therefore demand from us what you don’t demand from others.&quot; He does not restrict the moral superiority to Kuntar; Israel is morally superior to &quot;others.&quot;

Also, notice how Weinstein tries to make B&#039;Tselem&#039;s work appear as Israel&#039;s merit, when B&#039;Tselem is a marginal institution almost totally funded by European churches and whose field workers (the ones who risk being beaten by Israeli soldiers, and frequently are) are Muslims.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>The author is arguing that the relatively large amount of news space the rubber bullet shooting took up, compared to the welcome given to Samir Kuntar, is in fact a tacit admission on the part of journalists and their editors that Israeli soldiers are more morally superior to the likes of the aforementioned child-killer.</p></blockquote>
<p>No. He says &#8220;you know that we are morally superior and therefore demand from us what you don’t demand from others.&#8221; He does not restrict the moral superiority to Kuntar; Israel is morally superior to &#8220;others.&#8221;</p>
<p>Also, notice how Weinstein tries to make B&#8217;Tselem&#8217;s work appear as Israel&#8217;s merit, when B&#8217;Tselem is a marginal institution almost totally funded by European churches and whose field workers (the ones who risk being beaten by Israeli soldiers, and frequently are) are Muslims.</p>
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