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		<title>By: sackcloth and ashes</title>
		<link>http://hurryupharry.org/2008/11/17/british-fascists-and-911-untruths/comment-page-4/#comment-263219</link>
		<dc:creator>sackcloth and ashes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Dec 2008 09:31:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No comeback from the &#039;truthers&#039;. Quelle surprise.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No comeback from the &#8216;truthers&#8217;. Quelle surprise.</p>
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		<title>By: sackcloth and ashes</title>
		<link>http://hurryupharry.org/2008/11/17/british-fascists-and-911-untruths/comment-page-4/#comment-258141</link>
		<dc:creator>sackcloth and ashes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Nov 2008 14:20:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dazed and Confused - Northwoods was never implemented. And if the US government was planning to resuscitate Lemnitzer&#039;s ideas, then why did they declassify the document under an FOIA request months before 9/11?

I won&#039;t wait for your answer. After all, you haven&#039;t been able to deal with my sources pointing out that your theories are bullshit.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dazed and Confused &#8211; Northwoods was never implemented. And if the US government was planning to resuscitate Lemnitzer&#8217;s ideas, then why did they declassify the document under an FOIA request months before 9/11?</p>
<p>I won&#8217;t wait for your answer. After all, you haven&#8217;t been able to deal with my sources pointing out that your theories are bullshit.</p>
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		<title>By: sackcloth and ashes</title>
		<link>http://hurryupharry.org/2008/11/17/british-fascists-and-911-untruths/comment-page-4/#comment-258027</link>
		<dc:creator>sackcloth and ashes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Nov 2008 08:32:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Never mind, flipside, just ignore the evidence. It just goes to show that the problem with you goose-stepping morons is that you need to read books, instead of burning them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Never mind, flipside, just ignore the evidence. It just goes to show that the problem with you goose-stepping morons is that you need to read books, instead of burning them.</p>
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		<title>By: flipside</title>
		<link>http://hurryupharry.org/2008/11/17/british-fascists-and-911-untruths/comment-page-4/#comment-257984</link>
		<dc:creator>flipside</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Nov 2008 00:45:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Racism?What race?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Racism?What race?</p>
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		<title>By: flipside</title>
		<link>http://hurryupharry.org/2008/11/17/british-fascists-and-911-untruths/comment-page-4/#comment-257982</link>
		<dc:creator>flipside</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Nov 2008 00:41:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>http://www.911research.wtc7.net/talks/wtc/demolitions.html  Thats what happend.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://www.911research.wtc7.net/talks/wtc/demolitions.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.911research.wtc7.net/talks/wtc/demolitions.html</a>  Thats what happend.</p>
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		<title>By: sackcloth and ashes</title>
		<link>http://hurryupharry.org/2008/11/17/british-fascists-and-911-untruths/comment-page-4/#comment-257869</link>
		<dc:creator>sackcloth and ashes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Nov 2008 20:24:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>On NORAD&#039;s supposed stand-down. This source (based on something &#039;truthers&#039; don&#039;t understand - namely scholarly and rigorous research) shows that prior to 9/11 the US air defence system had been cut by successive defence budget reductions, due to the fact that following the end of the Cold War and the demise of the USSR there was no need for a massive integrated AD system to deal with fleets of Soviet ICBMs or bombers. On the morning of 9/11 NORAD had 4 fighters (not at full readiness) at its disposal:

http://www.amazon.com/Air-Power-Against-Terror-Operation/dp/0833037242

Another point that needs repeating is that NORAD is a binational command. It is a US-Canadian military organisation. So if the &#039;truthers&#039; are to believed the Canadian Forces are either staffed by complete morons who somehow missed the fact that their US colleagues connived in the largest &#039;false flag&#039; operation ever mounted, or they and their government were complicit. I find that hard to believe or account for:

http://www.mdn.ca/site/Newsroom/view_news_e.asp?id=2052
http://www.cda-cdai.ca/pdf/NORAD.pdf

If you&#039;ve got any more lies and bullshit you want me to comprehensively refute, children, just post it. I know you&#039;ll ignore my responses, because you haven&#039;t got the balls to admit that your &#039;theories&#039; are based on patchwords of fantasy and myth, not to mention (in flipside&#039;s case) the kind of deranged racism that only a true failure in life can thrive on.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>On NORAD&#8217;s supposed stand-down. This source (based on something &#8216;truthers&#8217; don&#8217;t understand &#8211; namely scholarly and rigorous research) shows that prior to 9/11 the US air defence system had been cut by successive defence budget reductions, due to the fact that following the end of the Cold War and the demise of the USSR there was no need for a massive integrated AD system to deal with fleets of Soviet ICBMs or bombers. On the morning of 9/11 NORAD had 4 fighters (not at full readiness) at its disposal:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.amazon.com/Air-Power-Against-Terror-Operation/dp/0833037242" rel="nofollow">http://www.amazon.com/Air-Power-Against-Terror-Operation/dp/0833037242</a></p>
<p>Another point that needs repeating is that NORAD is a binational command. It is a US-Canadian military organisation. So if the &#8216;truthers&#8217; are to believed the Canadian Forces are either staffed by complete morons who somehow missed the fact that their US colleagues connived in the largest &#8216;false flag&#8217; operation ever mounted, or they and their government were complicit. I find that hard to believe or account for:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.mdn.ca/site/Newsroom/view_news_e.asp?id=2052" rel="nofollow">http://www.mdn.ca/site/Newsroom/view_news_e.asp?id=2052</a><br />
<a href="http://www.cda-cdai.ca/pdf/NORAD.pdf" rel="nofollow">http://www.cda-cdai.ca/pdf/NORAD.pdf</a></p>
<p>If you&#8217;ve got any more lies and bullshit you want me to comprehensively refute, children, just post it. I know you&#8217;ll ignore my responses, because you haven&#8217;t got the balls to admit that your &#8216;theories&#8217; are based on patchwords of fantasy and myth, not to mention (in flipside&#8217;s case) the kind of deranged racism that only a true failure in life can thrive on.</p>
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		<title>By: sackcloth and ashes</title>
		<link>http://hurryupharry.org/2008/11/17/british-fascists-and-911-untruths/comment-page-4/#comment-257865</link>
		<dc:creator>sackcloth and ashes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Nov 2008 20:10:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Here&#039;s some pictures from the AA77 and UA93 crash-sites, where (according to Griffin and other denialists) there was no plane wreckage:

http://www.911myths.com/html/flight_93_photos.html
http://www.911myths.com/html/757_wreckage.html

The canard about there being &#039;no plane&#039; at the UA93 crash site is dealt with here - as you can see, a &#039;truther&#039; distorted witness testimony to support his &#039;theories&#039;. Given what Avery and Jones did to Jennings&#039; testimony, that comes as no surprise to me:

http://www.spiegel.de/international/spiegel/0,1518,265160-5,00.html

Here is the video presentation for the NIST report, which contrary to Eddie&#039;s barefaced lie does not conclude that WTC7 was brought down by a &#039;normal&#039; office fire:

http://www.nist.gov/public_affairs/releases/wtc_videos/wtc_videos.html

The main body of the report can be found on the same site. The report makes it clear that rubble from the collapse of WTC1 started fires on 10 floors of WTC7. Because the tower collapses following the plane strikes severed the water supply, WTC7 was able to burn for 7 hours. These are not the circumstances of a &#039;normal&#039; office fire. 



My comments and links on the flight training and flight patterns of the hijackers - backed by expert testimony and the instructors who unwittingly trained them - are in my 1.43pm post yesterday. &#039;Dazed and Confused&#039; and that neo-nazi moron &#039;flipside&#039; have dealt with this evidence by simply ignoring it:</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here&#8217;s some pictures from the AA77 and UA93 crash-sites, where (according to Griffin and other denialists) there was no plane wreckage:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.911myths.com/html/flight_93_photos.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.911myths.com/html/flight_93_photos.html</a><br />
<a href="http://www.911myths.com/html/757_wreckage.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.911myths.com/html/757_wreckage.html</a></p>
<p>The canard about there being &#8216;no plane&#8217; at the UA93 crash site is dealt with here &#8211; as you can see, a &#8216;truther&#8217; distorted witness testimony to support his &#8216;theories&#8217;. Given what Avery and Jones did to Jennings&#8217; testimony, that comes as no surprise to me:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.spiegel.de/international/spiegel/0,1518,265160-5,00.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.spiegel.de/international/spiegel/0,1518,265160-5,00.html</a></p>
<p>Here is the video presentation for the NIST report, which contrary to Eddie&#8217;s barefaced lie does not conclude that WTC7 was brought down by a &#8216;normal&#8217; office fire:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.nist.gov/public_affairs/releases/wtc_videos/wtc_videos.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.nist.gov/public_affairs/releases/wtc_videos/wtc_videos.html</a></p>
<p>The main body of the report can be found on the same site. The report makes it clear that rubble from the collapse of WTC1 started fires on 10 floors of WTC7. Because the tower collapses following the plane strikes severed the water supply, WTC7 was able to burn for 7 hours. These are not the circumstances of a &#8216;normal&#8217; office fire. </p>
<p>My comments and links on the flight training and flight patterns of the hijackers &#8211; backed by expert testimony and the instructors who unwittingly trained them &#8211; are in my 1.43pm post yesterday. &#8216;Dazed and Confused&#8217; and that neo-nazi moron &#8216;flipside&#8217; have dealt with this evidence by simply ignoring it:</p>
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		<title>By: Dazed and Confused</title>
		<link>http://hurryupharry.org/2008/11/17/british-fascists-and-911-untruths/comment-page-4/#comment-257763</link>
		<dc:creator>Dazed and Confused</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Nov 2008 15:43:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ha. I don&#039;t hate jews. Not in the slightest. Once, I even dated a Jewish girl ;-)

Here&#039;s some nice proof - from the Daily Telegraph, no less - that the US Government wanted to kill its own citizens just 40 years ago:

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/picturegalleries/howaboutthat/3477148/The-greatest-conspiracy-theories-in-history.html?image=21

Oh, but it wouldn&#039;t happen again, would it? That&#039;s crazy talk...!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ha. I don&#8217;t hate jews. Not in the slightest. Once, I even dated a Jewish girl ;-)</p>
<p>Here&#8217;s some nice proof &#8211; from the Daily Telegraph, no less &#8211; that the US Government wanted to kill its own citizens just 40 years ago:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/picturegalleries/howaboutthat/3477148/The-greatest-conspiracy-theories-in-history.html?image=21" rel="nofollow">http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/picturegalleries/howaboutthat/3477148/The-greatest-conspiracy-theories-in-history.html?image=21</a></p>
<p>Oh, but it wouldn&#8217;t happen again, would it? That&#8217;s crazy talk&#8230;!</p>
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		<title>By: Dazed and Confused</title>
		<link>http://hurryupharry.org/2008/11/17/british-fascists-and-911-untruths/comment-page-4/#comment-257758</link>
		<dc:creator>Dazed and Confused</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Nov 2008 15:32:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ha. Good timing - have a look at the Telegraph front page. Well worth a read, a great collection of conspiracies big and small.

2 of note - 9/11 - obviously - nice little summary: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/picturegalleries/howaboutthat/3477148/The-greatest-conspiracy-theories-in-history.html?image=29

And this one. Irrevocable and indisputable proof that the US Government has plotted murder against its own citizens in the past to justify policy changes.... 


http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/picturegalleries/howaboutthat/3477148/The-greatest-conspiracy-theories-in-history.html?image=21

Oh, but they wouldn&#039;t try it again, would they? That&#039;s crazy talk! You&#039;d have to be a lunatic to believe that...!!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ha. Good timing &#8211; have a look at the Telegraph front page. Well worth a read, a great collection of conspiracies big and small.</p>
<p>2 of note &#8211; 9/11 &#8211; obviously &#8211; nice little summary: <a href="http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/picturegalleries/howaboutthat/3477148/The-greatest-conspiracy-theories-in-history.html?image=29" rel="nofollow">http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/picturegalleries/howaboutthat/3477148/The-greatest-conspiracy-theories-in-history.html?image=29</a></p>
<p>And this one. Irrevocable and indisputable proof that the US Government has plotted murder against its own citizens in the past to justify policy changes&#8230;. </p>
<p><a href="http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/picturegalleries/howaboutthat/3477148/The-greatest-conspiracy-theories-in-history.html?image=21" rel="nofollow">http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/picturegalleries/howaboutthat/3477148/The-greatest-conspiracy-theories-in-history.html?image=21</a></p>
<p>Oh, but they wouldn&#8217;t try it again, would they? That&#8217;s crazy talk! You&#8217;d have to be a lunatic to believe that&#8230;!!!!</p>
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		<title>By: Mr Danger</title>
		<link>http://hurryupharry.org/2008/11/17/british-fascists-and-911-untruths/comment-page-4/#comment-257732</link>
		<dc:creator>Mr Danger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Nov 2008 14:49:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The next time someone says 911 Truth is full of anti semites, be sure to correct them and say &quot;no, its full of jew haters&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The next time someone says 911 Truth is full of anti semites, be sure to correct them and say &#8220;no, its full of jew haters&#8221;.</p>
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