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	<title>Comments on: Peter Hitchens on Obama&#8217;s victory</title>
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	<description>Liberty, if it means anything, is the right to tell people what they don&#039;t want to hear</description>
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		<title>By: Wilson</title>
		<link>http://hurryupharry.org/2008/11/09/peter-hitchens-on-obamas-victory/comment-page-2/#comment-255564</link>
		<dc:creator>Wilson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Nov 2008 23:02:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Check out this youtube video.  If you are thoughtful at all, it will make you think:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yYEiwR2KklM</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Check out this youtube video.  If you are thoughtful at all, it will make you think:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yYEiwR2KklM" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yYEiwR2KklM</a></p>
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		<title>By: Josh Scholar</title>
		<link>http://hurryupharry.org/2008/11/09/peter-hitchens-on-obamas-victory/comment-page-2/#comment-254006</link>
		<dc:creator>Josh Scholar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Nov 2008 03:12:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>er that was a typo &quot;Iran is NOT our enemy&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>er that was a typo &#8220;Iran is NOT our enemy&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Josh Scholar</title>
		<link>http://hurryupharry.org/2008/11/09/peter-hitchens-on-obamas-victory/comment-page-2/#comment-253971</link>
		<dc:creator>Josh Scholar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Nov 2008 23:43:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;However, call Obama old-fashioned if you will, but he sees it as the job of the President of the United States to protect American jobs, American lives and American culture.&lt;/i&gt;

Am I the only one who misread this as &quot;...call &lt;i&gt;Osama&lt;/i&gt; old-fashioned if you will...&quot;

And yes, being old fashioned is one of Osama&#039;s flaws.  &quot;There is no &#039;al-Qaeda&#039; at all.&quot;  My my.  Why am I not surprised that the next sentence is &quot;Iran is now our enemy?&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>However, call Obama old-fashioned if you will, but he sees it as the job of the President of the United States to protect American jobs, American lives and American culture.</i></p>
<p>Am I the only one who misread this as &#8220;&#8230;call <i>Osama</i> old-fashioned if you will&#8230;&#8221;</p>
<p>And yes, being old fashioned is one of Osama&#8217;s flaws.  &#8220;There is no &#8216;al-Qaeda&#8217; at all.&#8221;  My my.  Why am I not surprised that the next sentence is &#8220;Iran is now our enemy?&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: tim</title>
		<link>http://hurryupharry.org/2008/11/09/peter-hitchens-on-obamas-victory/comment-page-2/#comment-253863</link>
		<dc:creator>tim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Nov 2008 18:49:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;Funny that her Democrat enemies engineered to withold the report until it could have no impact on the election.
&lt;/i&gt;

That report was from Palins own appointees you numpty.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Funny that her Democrat enemies engineered to withold the report until it could have no impact on the election.<br />
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<p>That report was from Palins own appointees you numpty.</p>
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		<title>By: David Lindsay</title>
		<link>http://hurryupharry.org/2008/11/09/peter-hitchens-on-obamas-victory/comment-page-2/#comment-253853</link>
		<dc:creator>David Lindsay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Nov 2008 18:27:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And on the &quot;Islamic fascists&quot; in Saudi Arabia, who, after all, launched the 9/11 attacks?

Never mind the &quot;Islamic fascists&quot; in Iraq, who are only exist because of the removal of Saddam Hussein?

You are not the only person on here whose main or only pleasure in Obama&#039;s election is that you can now support the bombing of Pakistan with a racially clear conscience.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And on the &#8220;Islamic fascists&#8221; in Saudi Arabia, who, after all, launched the 9/11 attacks?</p>
<p>Never mind the &#8220;Islamic fascists&#8221; in Iraq, who are only exist because of the removal of Saddam Hussein?</p>
<p>You are not the only person on here whose main or only pleasure in Obama&#8217;s election is that you can now support the bombing of Pakistan with a racially clear conscience.</p>
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		<title>By: old Labour</title>
		<link>http://hurryupharry.org/2008/11/09/peter-hitchens-on-obamas-victory/comment-page-2/#comment-253850</link>
		<dc:creator>old Labour</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Nov 2008 18:22:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Lindsey - still desperate to attract some readers to your appalling weblog, I see. You&#039;d be better served old boy looking for flying saucers with your friend Dennis Kucenich. 

Obama&#039;s tough position on the Islamic fascists in Afghanistan and Pakistan is one of the few reasons to take encouragement from his election.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lindsey &#8211; still desperate to attract some readers to your appalling weblog, I see. You&#8217;d be better served old boy looking for flying saucers with your friend Dennis Kucenich. </p>
<p>Obama&#8217;s tough position on the Islamic fascists in Afghanistan and Pakistan is one of the few reasons to take encouragement from his election.</p>
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		<title>By: old Labour</title>
		<link>http://hurryupharry.org/2008/11/09/peter-hitchens-on-obamas-victory/comment-page-2/#comment-253846</link>
		<dc:creator>old Labour</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Nov 2008 18:17:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ah timmy boy. &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/us_and_americas/us_elections/article5077623.ece&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;After Palin was cleared and showed up your lies and delusions, you still have the cheek to appear.&lt;/a&gt; Funny that her Democrat enemies engineered to withold the report until it could have no impact on the election.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ah timmy boy. <a href="http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/us_and_americas/us_elections/article5077623.ece" rel="nofollow">After Palin was cleared and showed up your lies and delusions, you still have the cheek to appear.</a> Funny that her Democrat enemies engineered to withold the report until it could have no impact on the election.</p>
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		<title>By: David Lindsay</title>
		<link>http://hurryupharry.org/2008/11/09/peter-hitchens-on-obamas-victory/comment-page-2/#comment-253844</link>
		<dc:creator>David Lindsay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Nov 2008 18:14:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Old Labour, as one Old Labourite to another, many of us do not do mania. We came late to Obama, and then only after the elimination of several better candidates: John Edwards on economic policy, Dennis Kucinich on economic and foreign policy, Mike Huckabee on economic (based on his record, not his rhetoric) and social policy, Ron Paul on social and foreign policy. None of those was perfect. But they were all far, far better than – heaven help us – John McCain or Hillary Clinton. And they were all better than Barack Obama.

Obama is very, very wrong about Afghanistan, and must be told so by British and other European leaders, as well as by his close friend and ally, Prime Minister Stephen Harper of Canada. No more forces must be sent to that pointless, unwinnable conflict. Instead, those already there should be brought home forthwith, or else bring themselves home without further ado. Making the world anew at the barrel of a gun is not what they signed up for, not what they are paid for, not what they are sworn to do. Quite the reverse, in fact.

There are no &quot;Taliban&quot; distinct from the Pashtuns generally, and they have no desire to run anywhere beyond Afghanistan (or even only the Pashtun parts of Afghanistan) and the Pashtun parts of Pakistan. There is no &quot;al-Qaeda&quot; at all. Iran is not our enemy (and could not conceivably be allied to a Wahhabi, Salafi or Deobandi movement even if she were). Nor is Russia. And nor is Venezuela.

Our enemies are those who launched the attacks on 11th September 2001. They are busily buying up great swathes of our economies. They are in the Gulf. Above all, they are in Saudi Arabia. But they are now the weakened paymasters of the Clintons and the Bushes. Let them now feel their new, and very well-earned, weakness. If this must be a European and Old Commonwealth lead for America to follow, then so be it.

However, call Obama old-fashioned if you will, but he sees it as the job of the President of the United States to protect American jobs, American lives and American culture.

He has been elected, and wishes to be re-elected, by economic patriots and foreign policy realists who believe that immigration must be strictly legal, that legal immigration must be strictly limited, and that English (uniting black and white) must remain the language of the United States severally and collectively. They are right. And they will not, nor should they, feel themselves obliged either to re-nominate or to re-elect him. He has to deliver. And he will.

How should we react? Most positively.

It is morally repugnant to export high-wage, high-skilled, high-status jobs to un-unionised, child-exploiting sweatshops in Asia or Latin America. The Americans should stop doing this. And so should we.

It is morally repugnant to send off young men and women to be slaughtered in the inherently doomed, and already discredited, cause of global coercive utopianism. The Americans should stop doing this. And so should we.

And it is morally repugnant to import, including by illegal means, a new working class which understands nothing of the national language except commands, knows little or nothing about workers&#039; rights in the host-country, can be deported if it steps out of line, and can be moved around at will because it has no local patriotism, while ever-more economic, social, cultural and political power is transferred to a publicly funded bilingual élite. The Americans should stop doing this. And so should we.

The reaction to the election of Obama must be the election of our own economic patriots and foreign policy realists who believe that immigration must be strictly legal, that legal immigration must be strictly limited, and that English (uniting black and white) must remain the language of this United Kingdom as such.

In a word, Old Labour.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Old Labour, as one Old Labourite to another, many of us do not do mania. We came late to Obama, and then only after the elimination of several better candidates: John Edwards on economic policy, Dennis Kucinich on economic and foreign policy, Mike Huckabee on economic (based on his record, not his rhetoric) and social policy, Ron Paul on social and foreign policy. None of those was perfect. But they were all far, far better than – heaven help us – John McCain or Hillary Clinton. And they were all better than Barack Obama.</p>
<p>Obama is very, very wrong about Afghanistan, and must be told so by British and other European leaders, as well as by his close friend and ally, Prime Minister Stephen Harper of Canada. No more forces must be sent to that pointless, unwinnable conflict. Instead, those already there should be brought home forthwith, or else bring themselves home without further ado. Making the world anew at the barrel of a gun is not what they signed up for, not what they are paid for, not what they are sworn to do. Quite the reverse, in fact.</p>
<p>There are no &#8220;Taliban&#8221; distinct from the Pashtuns generally, and they have no desire to run anywhere beyond Afghanistan (or even only the Pashtun parts of Afghanistan) and the Pashtun parts of Pakistan. There is no &#8220;al-Qaeda&#8221; at all. Iran is not our enemy (and could not conceivably be allied to a Wahhabi, Salafi or Deobandi movement even if she were). Nor is Russia. And nor is Venezuela.</p>
<p>Our enemies are those who launched the attacks on 11th September 2001. They are busily buying up great swathes of our economies. They are in the Gulf. Above all, they are in Saudi Arabia. But they are now the weakened paymasters of the Clintons and the Bushes. Let them now feel their new, and very well-earned, weakness. If this must be a European and Old Commonwealth lead for America to follow, then so be it.</p>
<p>However, call Obama old-fashioned if you will, but he sees it as the job of the President of the United States to protect American jobs, American lives and American culture.</p>
<p>He has been elected, and wishes to be re-elected, by economic patriots and foreign policy realists who believe that immigration must be strictly legal, that legal immigration must be strictly limited, and that English (uniting black and white) must remain the language of the United States severally and collectively. They are right. And they will not, nor should they, feel themselves obliged either to re-nominate or to re-elect him. He has to deliver. And he will.</p>
<p>How should we react? Most positively.</p>
<p>It is morally repugnant to export high-wage, high-skilled, high-status jobs to un-unionised, child-exploiting sweatshops in Asia or Latin America. The Americans should stop doing this. And so should we.</p>
<p>It is morally repugnant to send off young men and women to be slaughtered in the inherently doomed, and already discredited, cause of global coercive utopianism. The Americans should stop doing this. And so should we.</p>
<p>And it is morally repugnant to import, including by illegal means, a new working class which understands nothing of the national language except commands, knows little or nothing about workers&#8217; rights in the host-country, can be deported if it steps out of line, and can be moved around at will because it has no local patriotism, while ever-more economic, social, cultural and political power is transferred to a publicly funded bilingual élite. The Americans should stop doing this. And so should we.</p>
<p>The reaction to the election of Obama must be the election of our own economic patriots and foreign policy realists who believe that immigration must be strictly legal, that legal immigration must be strictly limited, and that English (uniting black and white) must remain the language of this United Kingdom as such.</p>
<p>In a word, Old Labour.</p>
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		<title>By: tim</title>
		<link>http://hurryupharry.org/2008/11/09/peter-hitchens-on-obamas-victory/comment-page-2/#comment-253841</link>
		<dc:creator>tim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Nov 2008 18:07:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>After your assesment of Sarah Palin, Old Labour, do you expect to be taken seriously?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>After your assesment of Sarah Palin, Old Labour, do you expect to be taken seriously?</p>
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		<title>By: old Labour</title>
		<link>http://hurryupharry.org/2008/11/09/peter-hitchens-on-obamas-victory/comment-page-2/#comment-253839</link>
		<dc:creator>old Labour</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Nov 2008 18:06:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great piece by Hitchens junior - thanks for bringing this to my attention. If ever there was an example of the triumph of delusion over substance, Obamania tops them all.

For someone supposed to be right-wing, Hitchens has some good points about the blindness of the upper middle classes to which the Obamas belong, and the self-segregation which occurs right across the USA.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great piece by Hitchens junior &#8211; thanks for bringing this to my attention. If ever there was an example of the triumph of delusion over substance, Obamania tops them all.</p>
<p>For someone supposed to be right-wing, Hitchens has some good points about the blindness of the upper middle classes to which the Obamas belong, and the self-segregation which occurs right across the USA.</p>
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