David Rosenberg would know, but I wonder if ever, on occasion, a Bundist group might have met in a synagogue and accomodated itself to orthodox sensibilities for the sake of the peace of Israel.

In any case, I do not see the big deal, and, if it was simply that, a meeting in a mosque, it could be construed as racist or discriminatory to make one of it. I am not sure this sort of thing does HP any favours.

Not sure what you are talking about with regards to Iran John. I don’t support bombing it, I never have done, I’ve never even hinted that I do, anywhere, ever.

I do think it is ludicrous for you to agree with Salma Yaqoob’s analysis of Pakistan. Except you don’t agree with it do you? For someone like you to claim to be a fellow marxist, blaming the US is surely far to easy compared with looking at class conflict.

I’ve got plenty of disagreements with most of the people who post on here, and a lot more in common politically with you; so it’s surprising that you think that women should be forced to sit at the back in order to attend meetings- except again you don’t believe that do you. You know that the swp had to make accommodations to the worst possible elements of stalinism and reformism when you were all still in respect together, in order to keep the show on the road, and that you had to pretend to agree with them. Those days are long gone now. You’re free to say whatever you want, when you encounter sexist crap you can fight against it, rather than keeping your mouth shut in order to build a rotten coalition.

Criticise HP for the things it is wrong on, not the things it gets right.

How is “trying to sound reasonable on HP…dangerous”, John?

There is, in fact, a fair diversity of views on HP. Yes, a lot of Jews frequent HP and, unsurprisingly, express opinions in support of Israel and against those they perceive to be her enemies. It is ridiculous that you express surprise, shock, horror etc that this occurs. But that is hardly a reason to consistently effectively describe HP as an incarnation of evil, a “sewer” etc, simply because one’s life is so empty one needs to find foil against which to contrast one’s pale light.

It is ridiculous that you should consider it a virtue that SWP and RESPECT make themselves commodious to mainstream Muslims and Muslim thought, but constantly harangue HP because it is a place where fairly mainstream Jews find it a fairly comfortable place to congregate and discuss.

Maybe you should ask yourself why you are, in fact, so consistently drawn to such a place in the first place.

Great link about Jimmy.

I will keep it for display on CI(F) when some poster refers to Carter’s ‘high moral’ standards. What a hoot.

Mitnaged.

Yup. It is just the kind of subject to be used to make a Muslim debater ‘question his faith’. Not one from Afghanistan. But from Bradford. Certainly.

Most certainly yes.

Given that “Undercover Mosque” showed one divorced from reality imam endorsing that very thing NOW, it’s certainly not improper to take to task this particular alleged “virtue” of following in the prophet’s way.

Unfortunately we have no control over what might take place in Iran or Afghanistan concerning the infringement of the human rights of 9 year old girls, but we certainly have control here…

I think…..

“What’s changed lads? I’m confused.”

Well, this cunning stunt certainly changed things a bit:

http://www.counterpunch.org/brzezinski.html

There are some aspects of religious practice which – though odd or even distasteful – are improperly used to bate members of cultural minorities. Take, for example, winding up Muslims over Mohammed’s sexual intercourse with a 9 year old girl.

Why would it be improper to ‘wind up Muslims over Mohammed’s sexual intercourse with a 9 year old girl’????

I wouldn’t pick on someone passing me in the street but if I was in a discussion with a Muslim on the ‘Joys of Sharia’, the Prophet’s pedophilia seems a permissible subject.

Is my wife asked to move to back of the hall? If so, can I ask to join her as we have no wish to be separated? Would we be asked to leave the meeting for causing problems?