Comments on: UCU Boycotters Still Don’t See the Problem http://hurryupharry.org/2008/08/28/ucu-boycotters-still-dont-see-the-problem/ Liberty, if it means anything, is the right to tell people what they don't want to hear Fri, 10 Feb 2012 07:36:28 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: vildechaye http://hurryupharry.org/2008/08/28/ucu-boycotters-still-dont-see-the-problem/comment-page-8/#comment-221208 vildechaye Sat, 30 Aug 2008 15:35:22 +0000 http://www.hurryupharry.org/2008/08/28/ucu-boycotters-still-dont-see-the-problem/#comment-221208 Zkharya: I was responding to Diarmiud, who seemed to be quoting finkelstein. Specifically he wrote: "As Finkelstein says, if there’s any truth in the idea that antisemitism is on the rise, you people with your fascistic hatred towards the unpeople of Palestine are in no small way responsible." Perhaps diarmiud knows where this quote comes from; i've been unable to find it. It does seem to fit with Finkelstein's overall twisted worldview, but if Finkelstein didn't actually say/write it, then Diarmiud did, which says as much about him as i need to know. BTW, if you or anyone else can find the Finkelstein quote (if it in fact exists elsewhere beyond Diarmiud's feverish addled brain), please link to it. Apparently he was paraphrasing finkelstein and not quoting him. Zkharya:

I was responding to Diarmiud, who seemed to be quoting finkelstein. Specifically he wrote:
“As Finkelstein says, if there’s any truth in the idea that antisemitism is on the rise, you people with your fascistic hatred towards the unpeople of Palestine are in no small way responsible.”

Perhaps diarmiud knows where this quote comes from; i’ve been unable to find it. It does seem to fit with Finkelstein’s overall twisted worldview, but if Finkelstein didn’t actually say/write it, then Diarmiud did, which says as much about him as i need to know.

BTW, if you or anyone else can find the Finkelstein quote (if it in fact exists elsewhere beyond Diarmiud’s feverish addled brain), please link to it.

Apparently he was paraphrasing finkelstein and not quoting him.

]]> By: Zkharya http://hurryupharry.org/2008/08/28/ucu-boycotters-still-dont-see-the-problem/comment-page-8/#comment-221045 Zkharya Sat, 30 Aug 2008 07:47:19 +0000 http://www.hurryupharry.org/2008/08/28/ucu-boycotters-still-dont-see-the-problem/#comment-221045 Vildechaye, can you provide a link for that Finkelstein quote? Vildechaye,

can you provide a link for that Finkelstein quote?

]]> By: Fabian from Israel http://hurryupharry.org/2008/08/28/ucu-boycotters-still-dont-see-the-problem/comment-page-8/#comment-221042 Fabian from Israel Sat, 30 Aug 2008 06:51:55 +0000 http://www.hurryupharry.org/2008/08/28/ucu-boycotters-still-dont-see-the-problem/#comment-221042 *I wonder how it could work* *I wonder how it could work*

]]> By: Fabian from Israel http://hurryupharry.org/2008/08/28/ucu-boycotters-still-dont-see-the-problem/comment-page-8/#comment-221041 Fabian from Israel Sat, 30 Aug 2008 06:51:36 +0000 http://www.hurryupharry.org/2008/08/28/ucu-boycotters-still-dont-see-the-problem/#comment-221041 The ironic thing is that this guy with the name of plant fertilizer would like - I think - for Israel to dissapear and Jews and Palestinian Arabs live together in an Arab state. Jews who according to him feel a "fascist hatred toward the unpeople of Palestine". I wonder it could work with one of those peoples being so evil. The ironic thing is that this guy with the name of plant fertilizer would like – I think – for Israel to dissapear and Jews and Palestinian Arabs live together in an Arab state. Jews who according to him feel a “fascist hatred toward the unpeople of Palestine”. I wonder it could work with one of those peoples being so evil.

]]> By: vildechaye http://hurryupharry.org/2008/08/28/ucu-boycotters-still-dont-see-the-problem/comment-page-8/#comment-221032 vildechaye Sat, 30 Aug 2008 04:46:00 +0000 http://www.hurryupharry.org/2008/08/28/ucu-boycotters-still-dont-see-the-problem/#comment-221032 [If] antisemitism is on the rise, you people with your fascistic hatred towards the unpeople of Palestine are in no small way responsible. -- Finkelstein The more i thought about this statement the worse it became. Here is Finkelstein basically blaming the Jews for whatever antisemitism (ie racism) they face. This itself is as racist as it gets. Imagine blaming blacks, or any other ethnic group, or women for the racism/sexism they encounter. and this is the guy who is said to be "persuasive," (pity the poor fool he persuades with racist arguments like that) and the clincher "and right." sure he is. he blames the jews of course. Makes me wonder what the jews did to bring on the holocaust. oh yeah, they were bolshies and bankers, commies and capitalists, and they poisoned the wells -- no wait that was the crusades. they brought that on themselves too. Pathetic just doesn't cover it. [If] antisemitism is on the rise, you people with your fascistic hatred towards the unpeople of Palestine are in no small way responsible. — Finkelstein

The more i thought about this statement the worse it became. Here is Finkelstein basically blaming the Jews for whatever antisemitism (ie racism) they face. This itself is as racist as it gets. Imagine blaming blacks, or any other ethnic group, or women for the racism/sexism they encounter.

and this is the guy who is said to be “persuasive,” (pity the poor fool he persuades with racist arguments like that) and the clincher “and right.” sure he is. he blames the jews of course.
Makes me wonder what the jews did to bring on the holocaust. oh yeah, they were bolshies and bankers, commies and capitalists, and they poisoned the wells — no wait that was the crusades. they brought that on themselves too.

Pathetic just doesn’t cover it.

]]> By: vildechaye http://hurryupharry.org/2008/08/28/ucu-boycotters-still-dont-see-the-problem/comment-page-8/#comment-221030 vildechaye Sat, 30 Aug 2008 03:40:26 +0000 http://www.hurryupharry.org/2008/08/28/ucu-boycotters-still-dont-see-the-problem/#comment-221030 diarmuid: Im not interested in your opinion of finklestein. i do know he couldn't set foot in any holocaust survivor centre and spout his garbage looking those people in the eye. but i did note that you didn't respond to the rebuttal of your absurd charge that HP et al are full of hate toward Palestinian non-persons. because you couldn't back that up. all the rest is opinion, regardless of wrong you think i am and how "right" finklestein is. in the end, you two deserve each other. diarmuid: Im not interested in your opinion of finklestein. i do know he couldn’t set foot in any holocaust survivor centre and spout his garbage looking those people in the eye. but i did note that you didn’t respond to the rebuttal of your absurd charge that HP et al are full of hate toward Palestinian non-persons. because you couldn’t back that up. all the rest is opinion, regardless of wrong you think i am and how “right” finklestein is. in the end, you two deserve each other.

]]> By: modernity http://hurryupharry.org/2008/08/28/ucu-boycotters-still-dont-see-the-problem/comment-page-8/#comment-220963 modernity Sat, 30 Aug 2008 01:05:38 +0000 http://www.hurryupharry.org/2008/08/28/ucu-boycotters-still-dont-see-the-problem/#comment-220963 Diarmuid's the new Benji, and should be taken as seriously. Diarmuid’s the new Benji, and should be taken as seriously.

]]> By: Brownie http://hurryupharry.org/2008/08/28/ucu-boycotters-still-dont-see-the-problem/comment-page-8/#comment-220934 Brownie Sat, 30 Aug 2008 00:34:11 +0000 http://www.hurryupharry.org/2008/08/28/ucu-boycotters-still-dont-see-the-problem/#comment-220934 That's me shown. Tiocfaidh ár lá, and all that, Diarmuid. That’s me shown.

Tiocfaidh ár lá, and all that, Diarmuid.

]]> By: Diarmuid http://hurryupharry.org/2008/08/28/ucu-boycotters-still-dont-see-the-problem/comment-page-8/#comment-220912 Diarmuid Sat, 30 Aug 2008 00:12:10 +0000 http://www.hurryupharry.org/2008/08/28/ucu-boycotters-still-dont-see-the-problem/#comment-220912 Yeah...like Brownie. Yeah…like Brownie.

]]> By: Brownie http://hurryupharry.org/2008/08/28/ucu-boycotters-still-dont-see-the-problem/comment-page-8/#comment-220906 Brownie Sat, 30 Aug 2008 00:04:40 +0000 http://www.hurryupharry.org/2008/08/28/ucu-boycotters-still-dont-see-the-problem/#comment-220906 <i>If so, do you think Hizbullah winning (and Lebanon losing its independence to Syria and Iran) was a good thing?</i> Sorry, Inna, but your question presuppposes that Diarmuid gives a toss about Lebanon and the Lebanese. You must have him confused with someone else. If so, do you think Hizbullah winning (and Lebanon losing its independence to Syria and Iran) was a good thing?

Sorry, Inna, but your question presuppposes that Diarmuid gives a toss about Lebanon and the Lebanese. You must have him confused with someone else.

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