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	<title>Comments on: Why Belgium matters</title>
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		<title>By: David All</title>
		<link>http://hurryupharry.org/2008/08/22/why-belgium-matters/comment-page-2/#comment-220617</link>
		<dc:creator>David All</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Aug 2008 14:17:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dan, Tagnuzlsx, thanks for the explanations. The Belgian-German border does seem to contain some interesting twists of land.

Imagine if the Flemish and Walloons ever fight, it would be like the commercial where demonstrators and riot police battle each other with pillows!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dan, Tagnuzlsx, thanks for the explanations. The Belgian-German border does seem to contain some interesting twists of land.</p>
<p>Imagine if the Flemish and Walloons ever fight, it would be like the commercial where demonstrators and riot police battle each other with pillows!</p>
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		<title>By: Tagnuzlsx</title>
		<link>http://hurryupharry.org/2008/08/22/why-belgium-matters/comment-page-2/#comment-220204</link>
		<dc:creator>Tagnuzlsx</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Aug 2008 15:40:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Dan, when you write about “bizarre enclaves-exclaves owned by Germany and Belgium, which are largely uninhabited.” Are you referring to the border areas of both countries that use to be heavily fortified?&quot;

I think you are talking about the Vennbahn, and the odd boder arrangements around that. Since that railway line has been shut since 2001, and it&#039;s tracks lifted, that area may be returned to Germany in the near future.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Dan, when you write about “bizarre enclaves-exclaves owned by Germany and Belgium, which are largely uninhabited.” Are you referring to the border areas of both countries that use to be heavily fortified?&#8221;</p>
<p>I think you are talking about the Vennbahn, and the odd boder arrangements around that. Since that railway line has been shut since 2001, and it&#8217;s tracks lifted, that area may be returned to Germany in the near future.</p>
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		<title>By: Dan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Aug 2008 01:59:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Are you referring to the border areas of both countries that use to be heavily fortified?&quot;

I don&#039;t know why these odd territorial issues remain. I just remember being driven around the Belgium-German border by an ethnic German Belgian who kept laughing &quot;we&#039;re now in Belgium, ooh now we&#039;re in Germany, ooh now we&#039;re in Belgium&quot;, etc, along the same stretch of road - these were international borders that were meaningless and silly, with narrow strips of land divided between the two countries for no good reason. Perhaps there was some historical reason, but all I could see is fields that straddled these borders, with livestock failing to respect national borders. To Belgians, this is all nonsense and a bit of a joke. I think Belgians would feel comfortable with a break-up of their state if everyone else believed that Europe should be a union of culturally and historically defined regions rather than nation-states. They want the whole of Europe to be like Belgium!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Are you referring to the border areas of both countries that use to be heavily fortified?&#8221;</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t know why these odd territorial issues remain. I just remember being driven around the Belgium-German border by an ethnic German Belgian who kept laughing &#8220;we&#8217;re now in Belgium, ooh now we&#8217;re in Germany, ooh now we&#8217;re in Belgium&#8221;, etc, along the same stretch of road &#8211; these were international borders that were meaningless and silly, with narrow strips of land divided between the two countries for no good reason. Perhaps there was some historical reason, but all I could see is fields that straddled these borders, with livestock failing to respect national borders. To Belgians, this is all nonsense and a bit of a joke. I think Belgians would feel comfortable with a break-up of their state if everyone else believed that Europe should be a union of culturally and historically defined regions rather than nation-states. They want the whole of Europe to be like Belgium!</p>
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		<title>By: David All</title>
		<link>http://hurryupharry.org/2008/08/22/why-belgium-matters/comment-page-2/#comment-219825</link>
		<dc:creator>David All</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Aug 2008 00:37:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dan, when you write about &quot;bizarre enclaves-exclaves owned by Germany and Belgium, which are largely uninhabited.&quot;  Are you referring to the border areas of both countries that use to be heavily fortified?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dan, when you write about &#8220;bizarre enclaves-exclaves owned by Germany and Belgium, which are largely uninhabited.&#8221;  Are you referring to the border areas of both countries that use to be heavily fortified?</p>
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		<title>By: Dan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Aug 2008 00:30:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;can anybody really believe that the Flemish and the Wallons will descend to Balkans-like atrocities?&quot;

The Belgians are far too polite. I don&#039;t think the Flemish and Walloons hate each other anyway. Ironically, the split is probably inspired by the effective dissolution of the nation state within the European Union - a project the Belgians are enthusiastic about. Living on an island, it is hard for the British to truly appreciate what the removal of national boundaries means. But when you go to Belgium, you realise how absurd this is, particularly with bizarre enclaves-exclaves owned by Germany and Belgium, which are largely uninhabited. These territorial issues no longer matter because nation-states no longer matter. Subsidiarity is enshrined within the Maastricht Treaty and this is what the Flemish are looking towards. They are not interested in a seat on the UN, but the empowerment of their region within the EU. This issue is just one of many the EU will face - keep an eye on Wales, Catalonia, Brittany, Bavaria, etc. The nation state is dead.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;can anybody really believe that the Flemish and the Wallons will descend to Balkans-like atrocities?&#8221;</p>
<p>The Belgians are far too polite. I don&#8217;t think the Flemish and Walloons hate each other anyway. Ironically, the split is probably inspired by the effective dissolution of the nation state within the European Union &#8211; a project the Belgians are enthusiastic about. Living on an island, it is hard for the British to truly appreciate what the removal of national boundaries means. But when you go to Belgium, you realise how absurd this is, particularly with bizarre enclaves-exclaves owned by Germany and Belgium, which are largely uninhabited. These territorial issues no longer matter because nation-states no longer matter. Subsidiarity is enshrined within the Maastricht Treaty and this is what the Flemish are looking towards. They are not interested in a seat on the UN, but the empowerment of their region within the EU. This issue is just one of many the EU will face &#8211; keep an eye on Wales, Catalonia, Brittany, Bavaria, etc. The nation state is dead.</p>
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		<title>By: Alan Ji</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alan Ji</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Aug 2008 19:38:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A question occurs to me.

If Belgium had not been a founder-member of the European Union, would it now be allowed to join?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A question occurs to me.</p>
<p>If Belgium had not been a founder-member of the European Union, would it now be allowed to join?</p>
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		<title>By: Venichka</title>
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		<dc:creator>Venichka</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Aug 2008 08:41:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;Regardless of what happens to Belgium, can anybody really believe that the Flemish and the Wallons will descend to Balkans-like atrocities?,&lt;/i&gt;

No.

And Russians and Ukrainians of Ukraine, ditto.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Regardless of what happens to Belgium, can anybody really believe that the Flemish and the Wallons will descend to Balkans-like atrocities?,</i></p>
<p>No.</p>
<p>And Russians and Ukrainians of Ukraine, ditto.</p>
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		<title>By: Oniad</title>
		<link>http://hurryupharry.org/2008/08/22/why-belgium-matters/comment-page-2/#comment-219408</link>
		<dc:creator>Oniad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Aug 2008 01:05:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As long as production of Mandarine Napoleon continues uninterrupted, I&#039;m ok with whatever they end up doing...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As long as production of Mandarine Napoleon continues uninterrupted, I&#8217;m ok with whatever they end up doing&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: David All</title>
		<link>http://hurryupharry.org/2008/08/22/why-belgium-matters/comment-page-2/#comment-219406</link>
		<dc:creator>David All</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Aug 2008 00:45:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Regardless of what happens to Belgium, can anybody really believe that the Flemish and the Wallons will descend to Balkans-like atrocities? And that if they started to do so, that NATO would not  intervene to put a stop to it?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Regardless of what happens to Belgium, can anybody really believe that the Flemish and the Wallons will descend to Balkans-like atrocities? And that if they started to do so, that NATO would not  intervene to put a stop to it?</p>
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		<title>By: David All</title>
		<link>http://hurryupharry.org/2008/08/22/why-belgium-matters/comment-page-2/#comment-219404</link>
		<dc:creator>David All</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Aug 2008 00:40:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Fabian From Israel is his comment of 23rd August, 4:45AM makes the best brief summary of the Israeli-Palestinian conflict and how it will continue until the Palestinians give up their Hate of Israel and accept responsiblity for their actions.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Fabian From Israel is his comment of 23rd August, 4:45AM makes the best brief summary of the Israeli-Palestinian conflict and how it will continue until the Palestinians give up their Hate of Israel and accept responsiblity for their actions.</p>
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