Comments on: Thanks for most of the support http://hurryupharry.org/2008/07/15/thanks-for-most-of-the-support/ Liberty, if it means anything, is the right to tell people what they don't want to hear Thu, 24 May 2012 03:10:04 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: Rafi http://hurryupharry.org/2008/07/15/thanks-for-most-of-the-support/comment-page-5/#comment-211600 Rafi Mon, 28 Jul 2008 15:54:33 +0000 http://www.hurryupharry.org/2008/07/15/thanks-for-most-of-the-support/#comment-211600 In this day and age, defenders of liberty have to watch the bedfellows. I'm glad that the racists are supportive - it shows they do have some sense. But by the same token, non-racists have to keep issuing statements like Gene's that solidify their status in opposition to racism. I agree with Irene in the sense that all the non-racist blogs need to avoid a constant bashing of Islam and Muslims. Ultimately, what will end fundamentalist Islamism will be a rise in the volume of claims made by truly moderate Muslims to promote a moderate Islam. We will inevitably have strange and disgusting bedfellows in an effort against certain types of extremism, and we need them in order to keep going sometimes. But as the American Founding Fathers warned, long-term entanglements are dangerous. If we keep to our beliefs, we will be able to withstand some nasty supporters. In this day and age, defenders of liberty have to watch the bedfellows. I’m glad that the racists are supportive – it shows they do have some sense. But by the same token, non-racists have to keep issuing statements like Gene’s that solidify their status in opposition to racism. I agree with Irene in the sense that all the non-racist blogs need to avoid a constant bashing of Islam and Muslims. Ultimately, what will end fundamentalist Islamism will be a rise in the volume of claims made by truly moderate Muslims to promote a moderate Islam. We will inevitably have strange and disgusting bedfellows in an effort against certain types of extremism, and we need them in order to keep going sometimes. But as the American Founding Fathers warned, long-term entanglements are dangerous. If we keep to our beliefs, we will be able to withstand some nasty supporters.

]]> By: E.D. Kain http://hurryupharry.org/2008/07/15/thanks-for-most-of-the-support/comment-page-5/#comment-211004 E.D. Kain Fri, 25 Jul 2008 18:18:28 +0000 http://www.hurryupharry.org/2008/07/15/thanks-for-most-of-the-support/#comment-211004 Eowyn-- Great points, as always. Harry's Place--I agree with Eowyn on this. I spent a lot of time and energy putting together the blogburst, and a lot of people joined up with enthusiasm and spread the word. Thanks to Eowyn it got picked up by Instapundit. I've seen mention of it now on the Jerusalem Post; Gawker, and a number of other big sites. While you were very much within your rights to not want certain blogs on the list, after sitting on this for a while, I think that could have been handled less publicly. As it stands, the thanks was tepid at best. Thankfully, this wasn't done for the thanks. This was done to preserve the freedom of speech.... Eowyn–

Great points, as always.

Harry’s Place–I agree with Eowyn on this. I spent a lot of time and energy putting together the blogburst, and a lot of people joined up with enthusiasm and spread the word. Thanks to Eowyn it got picked up by Instapundit. I’ve seen mention of it now on the Jerusalem Post; Gawker, and a number of other big sites.

While you were very much within your rights to not want certain blogs on the list, after sitting on this for a while, I think that could have been handled less publicly.

As it stands, the thanks was tepid at best. Thankfully, this wasn’t done for the thanks. This was done to preserve the freedom of speech….

]]> By: Dag Selander http://hurryupharry.org/2008/07/15/thanks-for-most-of-the-support/comment-page-5/#comment-209498 Dag Selander Tue, 22 Jul 2008 14:48:59 +0000 http://www.hurryupharry.org/2008/07/15/thanks-for-most-of-the-support/#comment-209498 Support from Sweden. Rich blessings //Dag Sr Support from Sweden.
Rich blessings
//Dag Sr

]]> By: rens wez http://hurryupharry.org/2008/07/15/thanks-for-most-of-the-support/comment-page-5/#comment-208118 rens wez Fri, 18 Jul 2008 19:31:28 +0000 http://www.hurryupharry.org/2008/07/15/thanks-for-most-of-the-support/#comment-208118 Ah, I got lost at the first turn on this overwhelming Place. I misposted the comment below at the list entitled <> -what a title, BTW. -- I read this blog has been sued by the enigmatic Mr. Sawalha of the British Muslim Initiative. That represents the new secret weapon the Mr. Sawalha's of Europe have recently discovered to use in its full potential: eagerly sue sources of any critical observation. These days, speaking out critically on their relatively childish & cruel metaphysics may end one up accused in court. Courts that run on HR rules, not in a 1001-&-1 years to be allowed in islamic states of origin. Cultural relativism, slowly undermining itself. It seems that indeed, fate is not without a sense of irony. As for that sueing: sew them for instigating their islamofascist caliphat ideology & fucking up the civilised world in general. Give them good a anti-fun-da-mentalists show. Great place this is for just that. Mazzel tov, rens wez Ah, I got lost at the first turn on this overwhelming Place.

I misposted the comment below at the list entitled <> -what a title, BTW.

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I read this blog has been sued by the enigmatic Mr. Sawalha of the British Muslim Initiative.

That represents the new secret weapon the Mr. Sawalha’s of Europe have recently discovered to use in its full potential: eagerly sue sources of any critical observation.

These days, speaking out critically on their relatively childish & cruel metaphysics may end one up accused in court. Courts that run on HR rules, not in a 1001-&-1 years to be allowed in islamic states of origin.

Cultural relativism, slowly undermining itself.
It seems that indeed, fate is not without a sense of irony.

As for that sueing: sew them for instigating their islamofascist caliphat ideology & fucking up the civilised world in general.

Give them good a anti-fun-da-mentalists show.
Great place this is for just that.

Mazzel tov,

rens wez

]]> By: Eowyn http://hurryupharry.org/2008/07/15/thanks-for-most-of-the-support/comment-page-5/#comment-207711 Eowyn Fri, 18 Jul 2008 06:03:31 +0000 http://www.hurryupharry.org/2008/07/15/thanks-for-most-of-the-support/#comment-207711 Oh, and by the way -- I'm the one responsible for the "Instalanche" given to the blogburst. I e-mailed Glenn Reynolds and alerted him, and he e-mailed me back his intention to pledge. It didn't matter to him -- or me -- what political persuasion Harry's Place might have. Oh, and by the way — I’m the one responsible for the “Instalanche” given to the blogburst. I e-mailed Glenn Reynolds and alerted him, and he e-mailed me back his intention to pledge. It didn’t matter to him — or me — what political persuasion Harry’s Place might have.

]]> By: Eowyn http://hurryupharry.org/2008/07/15/thanks-for-most-of-the-support/comment-page-5/#comment-207710 Eowyn Fri, 18 Jul 2008 06:01:41 +0000 http://www.hurryupharry.org/2008/07/15/thanks-for-most-of-the-support/#comment-207710 sf 17 July 2008, 4:00 am It’s common courtesy to thank people who offer support. You need some manners, Harry. *********** Spot on. Had I been a left/right/whatever-of-center blogger, who had been given massive (and don't think blogbursts are inconsequential) support, I might have said this: "Though I don't agree with the sentiments of some of the bloggers who pledged their support of my rights to free speech, I am thankful so many stand up for the same principle we all share." Come to think of it -- given the fact that so many of the bloggers who not only pledged their support, but cold, hard cash toward the legal defense fund -- were conservative, what does that say about liberal bloggers? Where is their support en masse? Think hard before biting the hand. sf
17 July 2008, 4:00 am

It’s common courtesy to thank people who offer support. You need some manners, Harry.

***********

Spot on.

Had I been a left/right/whatever-of-center blogger, who had been given massive (and don’t think blogbursts are inconsequential) support, I might have said this:

“Though I don’t agree with the sentiments of some of the bloggers who pledged their support of my rights to free speech, I am thankful so many stand up for the same principle we all share.”

Come to think of it — given the fact that so many of the bloggers who not only pledged their support, but cold, hard cash toward the legal defense fund — were conservative, what does that say about liberal bloggers?

Where is their support en masse?

Think hard before biting the hand.

]]> By: Anita S http://hurryupharry.org/2008/07/15/thanks-for-most-of-the-support/comment-page-5/#comment-207155 Anita S Thu, 17 Jul 2008 08:21:34 +0000 http://www.hurryupharry.org/2008/07/15/thanks-for-most-of-the-support/#comment-207155 Can't you just kiss and make up with Robert at Dhimmi Watch? I'm a regular at this site, it's a pity you have taken this view of Robert since he has been sticking his neck out regarding Islamists for some time (based on research as opposed to Islamophobia). Can’t you just kiss and make up with Robert at Dhimmi Watch? I’m a regular at this site, it’s a pity you have taken this view of Robert since he has been sticking his neck out regarding Islamists for some time (based on research as opposed to Islamophobia).

]]> By: ubermouth http://hurryupharry.org/2008/07/15/thanks-for-most-of-the-support/comment-page-5/#comment-207136 ubermouth Thu, 17 Jul 2008 06:21:46 +0000 http://www.hurryupharry.org/2008/07/15/thanks-for-most-of-the-support/#comment-207136 And then there's this mysogenistic fat budha harassing me- but does anyone care??? Where's MY support? And then there’s this mysogenistic fat budha harassing me- but does anyone care???

Where’s MY support?

]]> By: suffocation http://hurryupharry.org/2008/07/15/thanks-for-most-of-the-support/comment-page-5/#comment-207130 suffocation Thu, 17 Jul 2008 04:18:22 +0000 http://www.hurryupharry.org/2008/07/15/thanks-for-most-of-the-support/#comment-207130 muslim live in muslim country they will say everything always peace non-muslim live in muslim country ---> ask to them...gene not only talk shitti muslim live in muslim country they will say everything always peace

non-muslim live in muslim country —> ask to them…gene

not only talk shitti

]]> By: sf http://hurryupharry.org/2008/07/15/thanks-for-most-of-the-support/comment-page-5/#comment-207121 sf Thu, 17 Jul 2008 03:04:24 +0000 http://www.hurryupharry.org/2008/07/15/thanks-for-most-of-the-support/#comment-207121 BenSix: If you had the slightest idea of what you are talking about, you would know that Mark Steyn and Rush Limbaugh have always defended free speech for everybody. Wake up. BenSix:
If you had the slightest idea of what you are talking about, you would know that Mark Steyn and Rush Limbaugh have always defended free speech for everybody.
Wake up.

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