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		<title>By: Justice</title>
		<link>http://hurryupharry.org/2008/07/04/legal-threats-from-hamasbritish-muslim-initiative/comment-page-4/#comment-282726</link>
		<dc:creator>Justice</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Jan 2009 16:22:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Mitnaged</title>
		<link>http://hurryupharry.org/2008/07/04/legal-threats-from-hamasbritish-muslim-initiative/comment-page-4/#comment-211148</link>
		<dc:creator>Mitnaged</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Jul 2008 15:43:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Even to rail against the &quot;evil Jewish lobby&quot; is anti-Semitic isn&#039;t it?  After all, can you imagine what might happen if anyone railed equally against the machinations of Muslims who want to undermine democracy by engineering the deselection of Jewish/pro-Israel MPs?

Let&#039;s face it, to these people &quot;Israel&quot; and &quot;Jewish&quot; are perceived and used interchangeably whenever they rant.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Even to rail against the &#8220;evil Jewish lobby&#8221; is anti-Semitic isn&#8217;t it?  After all, can you imagine what might happen if anyone railed equally against the machinations of Muslims who want to undermine democracy by engineering the deselection of Jewish/pro-Israel MPs?</p>
<p>Let&#8217;s face it, to these people &#8220;Israel&#8221; and &#8220;Jewish&#8221; are perceived and used interchangeably whenever they rant.</p>
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		<title>By: Mitnaged</title>
		<link>http://hurryupharry.org/2008/07/04/legal-threats-from-hamasbritish-muslim-initiative/comment-page-4/#comment-211147</link>
		<dc:creator>Mitnaged</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Jul 2008 15:37:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is all too typical of the very nasty aspect of Muslim &quot;big talk&quot; but which people like this fall for their own rhetoric and come unstuck.  Altikriti and Sawalha are typical of the genre because they are incapable (thank heavens) of introspection and of seeing themselves as we might see them.  Therefore they think and then they &quot;do&quot; without reflection and because they think it they believe that they are right.  There seems not to be the normal disconnection between thoughts and reflections and subsequent action. Instead there is almost always the kneejerk reaction

I am sorry that HarrysPlace has been put through this but it would make an excellent case study of the Arab (and for this you may also read &quot;Muslim&quot;) mindset, as described by Tarek Heggy who describes the most obvious defects from which the contemporary Arab mind-set suffers:

1. A lack of intellectual hospitality;
2. It is steeped in a culture that encourages conformity and discourages diversity;
3. Limited tolerance for the Other;
4. Limited tolerance for criticism and the virtual absence of self-criticism;
5. The adoption of stands not on the basis of their coherence, validity or intrinsic value but on the basis of tribal or religious affiliations;
6. Deep feelings of inequality with others in terms of results and achievements makes for a sense of inadequacy that is sublimated into an exaggerated and unfounded pride;
7. A tendency to indulge in excessive self-praise and to glorify past achievements as a way of escaping our dismal reality;
8. The prevalence of what I call the &#039;big-talk culture&#039;, in which overblown rhetoric is used to compensate for the appalling lack of concrete achievements;
9. A lack of objectivity and the growth of individualism;
10. An unhealthy nostalgia for and escape into the past;
11. An aversion to the notion of compromise, which is deemed to be a form of capitulation and defeat;
12. Lack of respect for women;
13. A tendency to unquestioningly accept stereotypes at face value;
14. Setting great store by the conspiracy theory and believing that the Arabs are always the victims of heinous plots hatched against them by their enemies;
15. An ill-defined sense of national identity: is it Arab, Muslim, Asian, African or Mediterranean?
16. The spread of the personality cult phenomenon in Arab societies, where the relationship with the ruler is based not on mutual respect and accountability but on the excessive adulation, not to say deification, of the ruler;
17. The prevalence of an insular culture that knows next to nothing about the outside world and the real balance of power by which it is governed, let alone the science or culture of others;
18. A lack of appreciation for the value of the bond that links the human species together, which is their common humanity. For most people in the region, the only bonds that count are either tribal, sectarian or nationalistic, although humanity is the most exalted common denominator of all;
19. The spread of a mentality of fanaticism due to a number of factors, the most important being the tribalism that dominates the Arab mind-set to varying degrees;
20. Finally, the Arab mind-set is not overly concerned with the notion of freedom for the simple reason that the Arabs have enjoyed only limited doses of political rights and civil liberties.

And yet, as American Mike has said above, they are only too ready to use our civil liberties concepts when it suits them and against us.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is all too typical of the very nasty aspect of Muslim &#8220;big talk&#8221; but which people like this fall for their own rhetoric and come unstuck.  Altikriti and Sawalha are typical of the genre because they are incapable (thank heavens) of introspection and of seeing themselves as we might see them.  Therefore they think and then they &#8220;do&#8221; without reflection and because they think it they believe that they are right.  There seems not to be the normal disconnection between thoughts and reflections and subsequent action. Instead there is almost always the kneejerk reaction</p>
<p>I am sorry that HarrysPlace has been put through this but it would make an excellent case study of the Arab (and for this you may also read &#8220;Muslim&#8221;) mindset, as described by Tarek Heggy who describes the most obvious defects from which the contemporary Arab mind-set suffers:</p>
<p>1. A lack of intellectual hospitality;<br />
2. It is steeped in a culture that encourages conformity and discourages diversity;<br />
3. Limited tolerance for the Other;<br />
4. Limited tolerance for criticism and the virtual absence of self-criticism;<br />
5. The adoption of stands not on the basis of their coherence, validity or intrinsic value but on the basis of tribal or religious affiliations;<br />
6. Deep feelings of inequality with others in terms of results and achievements makes for a sense of inadequacy that is sublimated into an exaggerated and unfounded pride;<br />
7. A tendency to indulge in excessive self-praise and to glorify past achievements as a way of escaping our dismal reality;<br />
8. The prevalence of what I call the &#8216;big-talk culture&#8217;, in which overblown rhetoric is used to compensate for the appalling lack of concrete achievements;<br />
9. A lack of objectivity and the growth of individualism;<br />
10. An unhealthy nostalgia for and escape into the past;<br />
11. An aversion to the notion of compromise, which is deemed to be a form of capitulation and defeat;<br />
12. Lack of respect for women;<br />
13. A tendency to unquestioningly accept stereotypes at face value;<br />
14. Setting great store by the conspiracy theory and believing that the Arabs are always the victims of heinous plots hatched against them by their enemies;<br />
15. An ill-defined sense of national identity: is it Arab, Muslim, Asian, African or Mediterranean?<br />
16. The spread of the personality cult phenomenon in Arab societies, where the relationship with the ruler is based not on mutual respect and accountability but on the excessive adulation, not to say deification, of the ruler;<br />
17. The prevalence of an insular culture that knows next to nothing about the outside world and the real balance of power by which it is governed, let alone the science or culture of others;<br />
18. A lack of appreciation for the value of the bond that links the human species together, which is their common humanity. For most people in the region, the only bonds that count are either tribal, sectarian or nationalistic, although humanity is the most exalted common denominator of all;<br />
19. The spread of a mentality of fanaticism due to a number of factors, the most important being the tribalism that dominates the Arab mind-set to varying degrees;<br />
20. Finally, the Arab mind-set is not overly concerned with the notion of freedom for the simple reason that the Arabs have enjoyed only limited doses of political rights and civil liberties.</p>
<p>And yet, as American Mike has said above, they are only too ready to use our civil liberties concepts when it suits them and against us.</p>
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		<title>By: American Mike</title>
		<link>http://hurryupharry.org/2008/07/04/legal-threats-from-hamasbritish-muslim-initiative/comment-page-4/#comment-200634</link>
		<dc:creator>American Mike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Jul 2008 19:58:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is a perfect yet common example of Muslim extremists (living within the warm belly of Western society) using the liberality of the West as a trojan horse for their own repressive values.  Canada has its &quot;Human Rights&quot; tribunals and the Brits have a &quot;guilty until proven innocent&quot; set of defamation and &quot;hate&quot; laws.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is a perfect yet common example of Muslim extremists (living within the warm belly of Western society) using the liberality of the West as a trojan horse for their own repressive values.  Canada has its &#8220;Human Rights&#8221; tribunals and the Brits have a &#8220;guilty until proven innocent&#8221; set of defamation and &#8220;hate&#8221; laws.</p>
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		<title>By: pounce_UK</title>
		<link>http://hurryupharry.org/2008/07/04/legal-threats-from-hamasbritish-muslim-initiative/comment-page-4/#comment-200613</link>
		<dc:creator>pounce_UK</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Jul 2008 19:02:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well done DaveT. I&#039;m more than happy to chip in.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well done DaveT. I&#8217;m more than happy to chip in.</p>
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		<title>By: miguel</title>
		<link>http://hurryupharry.org/2008/07/04/legal-threats-from-hamasbritish-muslim-initiative/comment-page-4/#comment-200582</link>
		<dc:creator>miguel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Jul 2008 16:34:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Keep it up DavidT!
Obviously, it would be a great thing if they really sued. Great publicity. It seems fairly unlikely though, but maybe their hatred will get the better of them? Keep pushing them, your doing a good job.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Keep it up DavidT!<br />
Obviously, it would be a great thing if they really sued. Great publicity. It seems fairly unlikely though, but maybe their hatred will get the better of them? Keep pushing them, your doing a good job.</p>
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		<title>By: paul a'barge</title>
		<link>http://hurryupharry.org/2008/07/04/legal-threats-from-hamasbritish-muslim-initiative/comment-page-4/#comment-200530</link>
		<dc:creator>paul a'barge</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Jul 2008 14:22:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey, Mr Sawalha. Bring it on over to the USA and try and pull this crap.

We&#039;re waiting for you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey, Mr Sawalha. Bring it on over to the USA and try and pull this crap.</p>
<p>We&#8217;re waiting for you.</p>
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		<title>By: Mediocrates</title>
		<link>http://hurryupharry.org/2008/07/04/legal-threats-from-hamasbritish-muslim-initiative/comment-page-4/#comment-200498</link>
		<dc:creator>Mediocrates</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Jul 2008 12:18:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Has anyone checked with Mark Elf yet to see if the Evil Jew Menace has been defeated by the forces of Genocidal Righteousness? I can&#039;t imagine Mark&#039;s Morons would let this pass w/o commenting that a) All Jews are laughably stupid and b) All Jews are the secret super powerful evil of the world.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Has anyone checked with Mark Elf yet to see if the Evil Jew Menace has been defeated by the forces of Genocidal Righteousness? I can&#8217;t imagine Mark&#8217;s Morons would let this pass w/o commenting that a) All Jews are laughably stupid and b) All Jews are the secret super powerful evil of the world.</p>
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		<title>By: marvin</title>
		<link>http://hurryupharry.org/2008/07/04/legal-threats-from-hamasbritish-muslim-initiative/comment-page-4/#comment-200461</link>
		<dc:creator>marvin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Jul 2008 10:21:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Perhaps MEMRI can assist?

Their email is memri@memri.org</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Perhaps MEMRI can assist?</p>
<p>Their email is <a href="mailto:memri@memri.org">memri@memri.org</a></p>
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		<title>By: Jonathan</title>
		<link>http://hurryupharry.org/2008/07/04/legal-threats-from-hamasbritish-muslim-initiative/comment-page-4/#comment-200253</link>
		<dc:creator>Jonathan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Jul 2008 22:18:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Altikriti should be referred to the celebrated case of Arkell versus Pressdram</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Altikriti should be referred to the celebrated case of Arkell versus Pressdram</p>
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