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	<description>Liberty, if it means anything, is the right to tell people what they don&#039;t want to hear</description>
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		<title>By: modernity</title>
		<link>http://hurryupharry.org/2008/07/02/which-side/comment-page-1/#comment-199246</link>
		<dc:creator>modernity</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Jul 2008 14:31:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>yeah spgb_gray, I think reading skills are true and I like people to use them :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>yeah spgb_gray, I think reading skills are true and I like people to use them :)</p>
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		<title>By: spgb gray</title>
		<link>http://hurryupharry.org/2008/07/02/which-side/comment-page-1/#comment-199234</link>
		<dc:creator>spgb gray</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Jul 2008 14:17:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mod

just because many think something is true doesnt make it is true as a result

as for arrogance? you clearly are not so</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mod</p>
<p>just because many think something is true doesnt make it is true as a result</p>
<p>as for arrogance? you clearly are not so</p>
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		<title>By: modernity</title>
		<link>http://hurryupharry.org/2008/07/02/which-side/comment-page-1/#comment-199209</link>
		<dc:creator>modernity</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Jul 2008 13:55:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>spgb_gray wrote:

&lt;i&gt;&quot;I put a valid point. You say the working class ignore the SPGB and I say one reason is because there is not an open discussion about socialism.&quot;&lt;/i&gt;

not wishing to be rude, but they only make sense in your head, the above exchange is almost one big non sequitur, it doesn&#039;t make sense to anyone else.

but as I said I didn&#039;t expect you to see

it is a common problem with politicos, they will rarely ever admit that 1) they could be wrong 2) are wrong about things

go to SU blog or Liam&#039;s, it is that very same arrogant childishness which puts people off politics

anyway, look, you are happy to misread what I write, so as a member of the working classes, I shall take the option and ignore you in the future :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>spgb_gray wrote:</p>
<p><i>&#8220;I put a valid point. You say the working class ignore the SPGB and I say one reason is because there is not an open discussion about socialism.&#8221;</i></p>
<p>not wishing to be rude, but they only make sense in your head, the above exchange is almost one big non sequitur, it doesn&#8217;t make sense to anyone else.</p>
<p>but as I said I didn&#8217;t expect you to see</p>
<p>it is a common problem with politicos, they will rarely ever admit that 1) they could be wrong 2) are wrong about things</p>
<p>go to SU blog or Liam&#8217;s, it is that very same arrogant childishness which puts people off politics</p>
<p>anyway, look, you are happy to misread what I write, so as a member of the working classes, I shall take the option and ignore you in the future :)</p>
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		<title>By: Gene</title>
		<link>http://hurryupharry.org/2008/07/02/which-side/comment-page-1/#comment-199190</link>
		<dc:creator>Gene</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Jul 2008 13:38:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Please stay on topic.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Please stay on topic.</p>
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		<title>By: go rimbaud</title>
		<link>http://hurryupharry.org/2008/07/02/which-side/comment-page-1/#comment-199131</link>
		<dc:creator>go rimbaud</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Jul 2008 12:14:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>TheIrie wrote:
Its rather strange that Israeli policy is to demolish the house of the family of criminals like this - or at least that is what the prime minister and defence minister want to do. Another act of collective punishment. What possible justification is there for doing that?


I think the idea behind it has to do witht the fact that throughout the early stages of the second intifada a suicide bombers family could expect to recieve about $20,000 from the Saudis, roughly the same amount from Saddam Hussein, priviledges from the PA - and possibly other economic benefits from Arab states and organisations. This is big money in the occupied territories. 

With this system in place suicide bombing did become a business, the shahid gets into heaven and his or her family benefited as well.  I think demloshing the houses of suicide bombers is meant to mitigate the financial incentive to murder.

I may be wrong.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>TheIrie wrote:<br />
Its rather strange that Israeli policy is to demolish the house of the family of criminals like this &#8211; or at least that is what the prime minister and defence minister want to do. Another act of collective punishment. What possible justification is there for doing that?</p>
<p>I think the idea behind it has to do witht the fact that throughout the early stages of the second intifada a suicide bombers family could expect to recieve about $20,000 from the Saudis, roughly the same amount from Saddam Hussein, priviledges from the PA &#8211; and possibly other economic benefits from Arab states and organisations. This is big money in the occupied territories. </p>
<p>With this system in place suicide bombing did become a business, the shahid gets into heaven and his or her family benefited as well.  I think demloshing the houses of suicide bombers is meant to mitigate the financial incentive to murder.</p>
<p>I may be wrong.</p>
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		<title>By: TheIrie</title>
		<link>http://hurryupharry.org/2008/07/02/which-side/comment-page-1/#comment-199102</link>
		<dc:creator>TheIrie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Jul 2008 11:33:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Can anyone begin to imagine what would happen if an Iranian newspaper carried this story, talking about Iranian policy rather than Israeli policy? The article is not about what to do if there is another war - its about what Israel should do in the next war, which its seems is inevitable. It is almost unbelievable how much Israel &lt;b&gt;wants&lt;/b&gt; to go to war - and no-one in the mainstream seems particularly worried about this.

http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/998447.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Can anyone begin to imagine what would happen if an Iranian newspaper carried this story, talking about Iranian policy rather than Israeli policy? The article is not about what to do if there is another war &#8211; its about what Israel should do in the next war, which its seems is inevitable. It is almost unbelievable how much Israel <b>wants</b> to go to war &#8211; and no-one in the mainstream seems particularly worried about this.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/998447.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/998447.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: TheIrie</title>
		<link>http://hurryupharry.org/2008/07/02/which-side/comment-page-1/#comment-199098</link>
		<dc:creator>TheIrie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Jul 2008 11:22:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If Shin Bet have anything to do with it, Fabian, she just might. Well, at least you&#039;ll be happy, you terrorist, you. Its rather strange that Israeli policy is to demolish the house of the family of criminals like this - or at least that is what the prime minister and defence minister want to do. Another act of collective punishment. What possible justification is there for doing that?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If Shin Bet have anything to do with it, Fabian, she just might. Well, at least you&#8217;ll be happy, you terrorist, you. Its rather strange that Israeli policy is to demolish the house of the family of criminals like this &#8211; or at least that is what the prime minister and defence minister want to do. Another act of collective punishment. What possible justification is there for doing that?</p>
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		<title>By: Fabian from Israel</title>
		<link>http://hurryupharry.org/2008/07/02/which-side/comment-page-1/#comment-199004</link>
		<dc:creator>Fabian from Israel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Jul 2008 06:27:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh, here it is, with video. &quot;shahid, shahid, shahid!&quot; May she die very painfully today.
http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/998404.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, here it is, with video. &#8220;shahid, shahid, shahid!&#8221; May she die very painfully today.<br />
<a href="http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/998404.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/998404.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: Fabian from Israel</title>
		<link>http://hurryupharry.org/2008/07/02/which-side/comment-page-1/#comment-199003</link>
		<dc:creator>Fabian from Israel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Jul 2008 06:24:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Fabian, I just want to know if there have been any reports from the terrorists family&quot;

Yes. Yesterday when they went to his house to find his father, he said that he was the last person to do something like this and that is was terrible, bla bla. When the policemen were taking him away, a woman in the house started chanting a praise for the shahid.
I read it yesterday in one newspaper but I couldn&#039;t find it today.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Fabian, I just want to know if there have been any reports from the terrorists family&#8221;</p>
<p>Yes. Yesterday when they went to his house to find his father, he said that he was the last person to do something like this and that is was terrible, bla bla. When the policemen were taking him away, a woman in the house started chanting a praise for the shahid.<br />
I read it yesterday in one newspaper but I couldn&#8217;t find it today.</p>
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		<title>By: spgb gray</title>
		<link>http://hurryupharry.org/2008/07/02/which-side/comment-page-1/#comment-199001</link>
		<dc:creator>spgb gray</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Jul 2008 06:09:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>ps Mod

I try not to talk at people but an interesting and fair point</description>
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<p>I try not to talk at people but an interesting and fair point</p>
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