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	<description>Liberty, if it means anything, is the right to tell people what they don&#039;t want to hear</description>
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		<title>By: fish</title>
		<link>http://hurryupharry.org/2008/06/02/stop-making-rense/comment-page-1/#comment-257738</link>
		<dc:creator>fish</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Nov 2008 14:59:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Im thrilled that all the banks, all the governments and every position of influence in the world is held by a Jew.  Is this racist to say this?  After all they are superior to everyone else right?  Is it racist to say this?  I love living under the boot of Jews because it really turns me on.  Is this racist to say?  I get off watching Israelis kill Palestinian children, why shouldnt they?  Is this racist?  How about all the Jewish lawyers who have built such a wonderful system of justice, we certainly wouldnt want any goyim in charge of this.  Is this racist I say this?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Im thrilled that all the banks, all the governments and every position of influence in the world is held by a Jew.  Is this racist to say this?  After all they are superior to everyone else right?  Is it racist to say this?  I love living under the boot of Jews because it really turns me on.  Is this racist to say?  I get off watching Israelis kill Palestinian children, why shouldnt they?  Is this racist?  How about all the Jewish lawyers who have built such a wonderful system of justice, we certainly wouldnt want any goyim in charge of this.  Is this racist I say this?</p>
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		<title>By: bell</title>
		<link>http://hurryupharry.org/2008/06/02/stop-making-rense/comment-page-1/#comment-257731</link>
		<dc:creator>bell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Nov 2008 14:47:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>All this bleeding heart anti racist poor jew crap thrills me.  Tell me more.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>All this bleeding heart anti racist poor jew crap thrills me.  Tell me more.</p>
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		<title>By: HP=BNP</title>
		<link>http://hurryupharry.org/2008/06/02/stop-making-rense/comment-page-1/#comment-216646</link>
		<dc:creator>HP=BNP</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Aug 2008 19:47:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>IanThal

&quot;Arun Ghandi’s statements are terribly ignorant considering how many Jews (and Jewish NGOs) are involved in spreading genocide awareness even when Jews are not the primary target– even to the extent that it’s become routine for anti-Semites to claim that reports of genocide (say in Darfur) amount to Zionist propaganda.&quot;

Yet funnily the zionist lobby was completely silent over the genocide of Muslims in gujurat in 2002- perhaps because it was perpetrated by their anti-Muslim fascist friends in the stongly pro-Israel BJP/RSS/VHP (wheras The sudan govt is anti Israel so theres was a bad genocide)  and dont mention the silence and denial of the Nakba and the ethnic cleansing of Palestine.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>IanThal</p>
<p>&#8220;Arun Ghandi’s statements are terribly ignorant considering how many Jews (and Jewish NGOs) are involved in spreading genocide awareness even when Jews are not the primary target– even to the extent that it’s become routine for anti-Semites to claim that reports of genocide (say in Darfur) amount to Zionist propaganda.&#8221;</p>
<p>Yet funnily the zionist lobby was completely silent over the genocide of Muslims in gujurat in 2002- perhaps because it was perpetrated by their anti-Muslim fascist friends in the stongly pro-Israel BJP/RSS/VHP (wheras The sudan govt is anti Israel so theres was a bad genocide)  and dont mention the silence and denial of the Nakba and the ethnic cleansing of Palestine.</p>
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		<title>By: HP=BNP</title>
		<link>http://hurryupharry.org/2008/06/02/stop-making-rense/comment-page-1/#comment-216645</link>
		<dc:creator>HP=BNP</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Aug 2008 19:44:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Funny Melanie Phillips HPs poster girl says much the same thing about Muslims....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Funny Melanie Phillips HPs poster girl says much the same thing about Muslims&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: BORED KIDZ!!!!</title>
		<link>http://hurryupharry.org/2008/06/02/stop-making-rense/comment-page-1/#comment-183364</link>
		<dc:creator>BORED KIDZ!!!!</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Jun 2008 15:20:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Fuck Israel.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Fuck Israel.</p>
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		<title>By: Ian Thal</title>
		<link>http://hurryupharry.org/2008/06/02/stop-making-rense/comment-page-1/#comment-181088</link>
		<dc:creator>Ian Thal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Jun 2008 12:35:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Arun Ghandi&#039;s statements are terribly ignorant considering how many Jews (and Jewish NGOs) are involved in spreading genocide awareness even when Jews are not the primary target-- even to the extent that it&#039;s become routine for anti-Semites to claim that &lt;a href=&quot;http://ianthal.blogspot.com/2007/10/hecklers-abuse-genocide-survivors.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;reports of genocide (say in Darfur) amount to Zionist propaganda&lt;/a&gt;.

If there is any &lt;i&gt;apologia&lt;/i&gt; possible that allows us to portray Mr. Ghandi&#039;s statements as a tragic blindspot and not as malice, we should consider that India has a long-standing reputation of never persecuting their Jewish communities, and as a consequence, Indians might not grasp that antisemitism is powerful historical force elsewhere in the world.

By the way, thanks to David All for filling in some historical context about some of the realpolitik compromises that even idealists have to make.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Arun Ghandi&#8217;s statements are terribly ignorant considering how many Jews (and Jewish NGOs) are involved in spreading genocide awareness even when Jews are not the primary target&#8211; even to the extent that it&#8217;s become routine for anti-Semites to claim that <a href="http://ianthal.blogspot.com/2007/10/hecklers-abuse-genocide-survivors.html" rel="nofollow">reports of genocide (say in Darfur) amount to Zionist propaganda</a>.</p>
<p>If there is any <i>apologia</i> possible that allows us to portray Mr. Ghandi&#8217;s statements as a tragic blindspot and not as malice, we should consider that India has a long-standing reputation of never persecuting their Jewish communities, and as a consequence, Indians might not grasp that antisemitism is powerful historical force elsewhere in the world.</p>
<p>By the way, thanks to David All for filling in some historical context about some of the realpolitik compromises that even idealists have to make.</p>
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		<title>By: Alec Macpherson</title>
		<link>http://hurryupharry.org/2008/06/02/stop-making-rense/comment-page-1/#comment-181057</link>
		<dc:creator>Alec Macpherson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Jun 2008 09:54:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Gandhigeewhiz, t&#039;was Zionist Lover I suspected of being Gilad.  Ven is Venichka, our very own Dagenham Torquemada.

NB is more than an idiot.  He&#039;s a novelist who tries to apply his post modern technique of creation virtual reality on pages to explaining all of actual human behaviour.  He describes himself as &quot;always having had pacifist leanings&quot; and does seem to follow the National Bolshevik line of seeing Hitler as a closet pacifist or, at least, forced into war.

Rather like TheIrie.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gandhigeewhiz, t&#8217;was Zionist Lover I suspected of being Gilad.  Ven is Venichka, our very own Dagenham Torquemada.</p>
<p>NB is more than an idiot.  He&#8217;s a novelist who tries to apply his post modern technique of creation virtual reality on pages to explaining all of actual human behaviour.  He describes himself as &#8220;always having had pacifist leanings&#8221; and does seem to follow the National Bolshevik line of seeing Hitler as a closet pacifist or, at least, forced into war.</p>
<p>Rather like TheIrie.</p>
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		<title>By: David All</title>
		<link>http://hurryupharry.org/2008/06/02/stop-making-rense/comment-page-1/#comment-181006</link>
		<dc:creator>David All</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Jun 2008 00:47:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mahamta Ghandi (Gramps) was like a lot of pre-war honest* liberals and radicals in that they could not imagine a state much more repressive then the British Empire in India. I.E. repressive sure, but influenced and restrained by outside opinion. The absolute ruthlessness of the totaltarians was beyond their imagination. 

As for Ghandi&#039;s statement about Palestine, that was mostly to do with his understandable desire to concilate India&#039;s Moslems and to keep them from dividing the subcontinent with their own country. For a generation or so after Independence, India continued to give Israel a cold shoulder so as to not to stirr up India&#039;s remaining Moslems. In the last 20 years, India and Israel have come together first as partners** in the fight against a common enemy, Islamic Terrorism, but also as partners in high tech industry and trade.   

*honest in the sense that their belief in staying out of the war against Nazi Germanay was not influenced by whether or not Hitler and Stalin were dance partners. In other words they were not fellow travellers or pro-Soviet Apologists, etec. Here in the US, the liberal writer Sinclair Lewis and the long-time head of the American Socialist Party, Norman Thomas were examples of these honest anti-war liberals and radicals.

**Think of it as the alliance of the Elephant and the Mongoose!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mahamta Ghandi (Gramps) was like a lot of pre-war honest* liberals and radicals in that they could not imagine a state much more repressive then the British Empire in India. I.E. repressive sure, but influenced and restrained by outside opinion. The absolute ruthlessness of the totaltarians was beyond their imagination. </p>
<p>As for Ghandi&#8217;s statement about Palestine, that was mostly to do with his understandable desire to concilate India&#8217;s Moslems and to keep them from dividing the subcontinent with their own country. For a generation or so after Independence, India continued to give Israel a cold shoulder so as to not to stirr up India&#8217;s remaining Moslems. In the last 20 years, India and Israel have come together first as partners** in the fight against a common enemy, Islamic Terrorism, but also as partners in high tech industry and trade.   </p>
<p>*honest in the sense that their belief in staying out of the war against Nazi Germanay was not influenced by whether or not Hitler and Stalin were dance partners. In other words they were not fellow travellers or pro-Soviet Apologists, etec. Here in the US, the liberal writer Sinclair Lewis and the long-time head of the American Socialist Party, Norman Thomas were examples of these honest anti-war liberals and radicals.</p>
<p>**Think of it as the alliance of the Elephant and the Mongoose!</p>
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		<title>By: gandhigeewhiz</title>
		<link>http://hurryupharry.org/2008/06/02/stop-making-rense/comment-page-1/#comment-181004</link>
		<dc:creator>gandhigeewhiz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Jun 2008 00:41:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Alec,
No, not Gilad.  
--
I hadn&#039;t known that about NB, though I&#039;m not surprised that being an idiot re. the history of WW2, he&#039;s also a Nat. Bolshevist.  Who&#039;s Ven?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Alec,<br />
No, not Gilad.<br />
&#8211;<br />
I hadn&#8217;t known that about NB, though I&#8217;m not surprised that being an idiot re. the history of WW2, he&#8217;s also a Nat. Bolshevist.  Who&#8217;s Ven?</p>
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		<title>By: Oniad</title>
		<link>http://hurryupharry.org/2008/06/02/stop-making-rense/comment-page-1/#comment-181001</link>
		<dc:creator>Oniad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Jun 2008 00:18:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@David T

www.terrint.com/news.htm

Its an influential think-tank in Australia and seems to be associated with the Australian National University (came in #16 in the THES-QS world uni rankings). 

Strange that folks like these are using Rense as a source though isn&#039;t it?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@David T</p>
<p><a href="http://www.terrint.com/news.htm" rel="nofollow">http://www.terrint.com/news.htm</a></p>
<p>Its an influential think-tank in Australia and seems to be associated with the Australian National University (came in #16 in the THES-QS world uni rankings). </p>
<p>Strange that folks like these are using Rense as a source though isn&#8217;t it?</p>
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