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	<description>Liberty, if it means anything, is the right to tell people what they don&#039;t want to hear</description>
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		<title>By: Annoying Old Guy</title>
		<link>http://hurryupharry.org/2008/05/15/jihad-is-what-you-make-of-it/comment-page-1/#comment-206365</link>
		<dc:creator>Annoying Old Guy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Jul 2008 23:20:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;when their false claims are echoed in the media in the West, that adds some legitimacy to their claims, at least for uneducated Muslims&lt;/blockquote&gt;Do you really want to endorse such a disparaging statement about Muslims, that they are so weak minded that they find &quot;false claims&quot; by Western media &lt;em&gt;about their own religion&lt;/em&gt; persuasive? Would you ever claim that abortion clinic bombers were confused about their religion in the same way? And that the local Imams also misunderstand their religion so badly they can&#039;t clear that up for these &quot;uneducated Muslims&quot;?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>when their false claims are echoed in the media in the West, that adds some legitimacy to their claims, at least for uneducated Muslims</p></blockquote>
<p>Do you really want to endorse such a disparaging statement about Muslims, that they are so weak minded that they find &#8220;false claims&#8221; by Western media <em>about their own religion</em> persuasive? Would you ever claim that abortion clinic bombers were confused about their religion in the same way? And that the local Imams also misunderstand their religion so badly they can&#8217;t clear that up for these &#8220;uneducated Muslims&#8221;?</p>
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		<title>By: jihadforwhat</title>
		<link>http://hurryupharry.org/2008/05/15/jihad-is-what-you-make-of-it/comment-page-1/#comment-206338</link>
		<dc:creator>jihadforwhat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Jul 2008 21:26:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why can we not refer to acts of terrorism conducted in the name of Islam or the glorification of Allah as Islamic terrorism. What is the precise term we should use to reference acts of terror conducted by a believer in Islam? The term Islamic terrorist is much more accurate, more direct, more to the point, and more descriptive that the favorite &#039;smoke screen&#039; term Islamophobia. It may violate the principles of  Political Correctness, but there is nothing correct about this speech and thought limiting philosophy. It is a cop out for those that want to avoid any serious discussion or debate.

Islamophobia is nonsense term invented simply to suppress freedom of speech, freedom of thought, and freedom to acquire new knowledge. Any criticism of Islam, Muslims, or any of their foundational tests is met with cries of Islamophobia. Implying that criticism of, or expressed apprehension, of Islam and Muslims is phobic is in itself phobic. The &quot;Islamophobes like Robert Spencer and Hugh Fitzgerald&quot; provide links to their sources of knowledge. These sources include, but are limited to, the sacred texts of Islam. Copies of these texts are readily available to anyone with enough honesty to educate themselves about Islam before reaching a conclusion. Before I became aware of &quot;islamophobic&quot; websites and blogs My opinion of Islam changed radically. Prior to using the Internet to acquire knowledge of Islam, and Muslims, I accepted the premise that Islam is a &#039;Religion of Peace&#039;. I now see very little evidence to justify that claim. If I had not acquired any knowledge of Islam and suddenly began to criticize it then I could have been properly classified as an Islamophobe. However, since my most earnest criticisms of Islam have evolved based on the knowledge I have acquired I am no longer phobic.

Even the asking of a thoughtful question is condemned. Supposed scholars claim that unless someone is fluent in Arabic they can not properly read and understand Islam. Okay, if this is &#039;the test&#039; are all these learned Islamic scholars fully fluent in the Arabic dialect(s) used to create the &#039;Tradition&#039;? [See Chapter 2 The Religion of Islam - Maulana Muhammad Ali -ISBN 0-913321-32-X]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why can we not refer to acts of terrorism conducted in the name of Islam or the glorification of Allah as Islamic terrorism. What is the precise term we should use to reference acts of terror conducted by a believer in Islam? The term Islamic terrorist is much more accurate, more direct, more to the point, and more descriptive that the favorite &#8217;smoke screen&#8217; term Islamophobia. It may violate the principles of  Political Correctness, but there is nothing correct about this speech and thought limiting philosophy. It is a cop out for those that want to avoid any serious discussion or debate.</p>
<p>Islamophobia is nonsense term invented simply to suppress freedom of speech, freedom of thought, and freedom to acquire new knowledge. Any criticism of Islam, Muslims, or any of their foundational tests is met with cries of Islamophobia. Implying that criticism of, or expressed apprehension, of Islam and Muslims is phobic is in itself phobic. The &#8220;Islamophobes like Robert Spencer and Hugh Fitzgerald&#8221; provide links to their sources of knowledge. These sources include, but are limited to, the sacred texts of Islam. Copies of these texts are readily available to anyone with enough honesty to educate themselves about Islam before reaching a conclusion. Before I became aware of &#8220;islamophobic&#8221; websites and blogs My opinion of Islam changed radically. Prior to using the Internet to acquire knowledge of Islam, and Muslims, I accepted the premise that Islam is a &#8216;Religion of Peace&#8217;. I now see very little evidence to justify that claim. If I had not acquired any knowledge of Islam and suddenly began to criticize it then I could have been properly classified as an Islamophobe. However, since my most earnest criticisms of Islam have evolved based on the knowledge I have acquired I am no longer phobic.</p>
<p>Even the asking of a thoughtful question is condemned. Supposed scholars claim that unless someone is fluent in Arabic they can not properly read and understand Islam. Okay, if this is &#8216;the test&#8217; are all these learned Islamic scholars fully fluent in the Arabic dialect(s) used to create the &#8216;Tradition&#8217;? [See Chapter 2 The Religion of Islam - Maulana Muhammad Ali -ISBN 0-913321-32-X]</p>
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		<title>By: Jakester</title>
		<link>http://hurryupharry.org/2008/05/15/jihad-is-what-you-make-of-it/comment-page-1/#comment-206250</link>
		<dc:creator>Jakester</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Jul 2008 16:40:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Where would anyone get teh idea that Islam = violence? Ask the Copts in Egypt, or the Jews who used to live in Egypt but were stripped of their wealth and evicted back in the 50&#039;s. Or ask the millions killed or driven out by the johadist regime in Sudan. Teh US and IK goivernments&#039; word games about how terrorism is not related to &#039;True&quot; islam are moronic as well as dishonest.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Where would anyone get teh idea that Islam = violence? Ask the Copts in Egypt, or the Jews who used to live in Egypt but were stripped of their wealth and evicted back in the 50&#8217;s. Or ask the millions killed or driven out by the johadist regime in Sudan. Teh US and IK goivernments&#8217; word games about how terrorism is not related to &#8216;True&#8221; islam are moronic as well as dishonest.</p>
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		<title>By: sheik yer'mami</title>
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		<dc:creator>sheik yer'mami</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 May 2008 10:52:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&#039;Robert Spencer &amp; his ilk&#039;  has done more to bring the Islamic doctrine to our attention than any halfwitted commie-liberal-multiculti-diversity-gay-lesbian atheist.

There is no cure for ignorance and stupidity, but Islamic jihad is real and will destroy us. Not necessarily the violent kind, mind you: the jihad by subversion, treason, infiltration, intimidation and finally outbreeding. Terror, in case you don&#039;t know it yet, is fundamental to Islam: it  always works.

Shouldn&#039;t worry a gay atheist. In an Islamic state you can only be killed once...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8216;Robert Spencer &amp; his ilk&#8217;  has done more to bring the Islamic doctrine to our attention than any halfwitted commie-liberal-multiculti-diversity-gay-lesbian atheist.</p>
<p>There is no cure for ignorance and stupidity, but Islamic jihad is real and will destroy us. Not necessarily the violent kind, mind you: the jihad by subversion, treason, infiltration, intimidation and finally outbreeding. Terror, in case you don&#8217;t know it yet, is fundamental to Islam: it  always works.</p>
<p>Shouldn&#8217;t worry a gay atheist. In an Islamic state you can only be killed once&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: John Palubiski</title>
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		<dc:creator>John Palubiski</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 May 2008 17:57:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;Did you have communion? Did the priest slip you one?&lt;/i&gt;

Unfortunately Morgoth I didn&#039;t feel I was in a sufficient state of grace to take the wafer.

And the money I &lt;i&gt;should&lt;/i&gt; have put in the collection plate, I spent instead on a hearty breakfast at a nearby café.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Did you have communion? Did the priest slip you one?</i></p>
<p>Unfortunately Morgoth I didn&#8217;t feel I was in a sufficient state of grace to take the wafer.</p>
<p>And the money I <i>should</i> have put in the collection plate, I spent instead on a hearty breakfast at a nearby café.</p>
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		<title>By: M o r g o t h</title>
		<link>http://hurryupharry.org/2008/05/15/jihad-is-what-you-make-of-it/comment-page-1/#comment-176531</link>
		<dc:creator>M o r g o t h</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 May 2008 14:29:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;I went to church before breakfast.&lt;/i&gt;

Did you have communion? Did the priest slip you one?

*fnarr*</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>I went to church before breakfast.</i></p>
<p>Did you have communion? Did the priest slip you one?</p>
<p>*fnarr*</p>
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		<title>By: John Palubiski</title>
		<link>http://hurryupharry.org/2008/05/15/jihad-is-what-you-make-of-it/comment-page-1/#comment-176512</link>
		<dc:creator>John Palubiski</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 May 2008 13:42:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;By the sounds of it Palubiski, someone passed you the tequila before breakfast.&lt;/i&gt;

I went to church before breakfast.

And I now await, with baited breath, your quantum physics thesis and your critique of the mandelbrot equation.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>By the sounds of it Palubiski, someone passed you the tequila before breakfast.</i></p>
<p>I went to church before breakfast.</p>
<p>And I now await, with baited breath, your quantum physics thesis and your critique of the mandelbrot equation.</p>
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		<title>By: G.</title>
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		<dc:creator>G.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 May 2008 13:28:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So Muslims who believe that terrorism of Jihad are &#039;ignorant&#039;? 
Evidently they haven&#039;t been paying attention to noted Koranic scholars such as Tony Blair, Bono, George Bush, the Archbishop of Canterbury, Brett, that guy who hangs around Starbucks etc. who have comprehensively demonstrated with extensive referencing of the Hadith and seminal Medieval jurists that Islam is the RELIGION OF PEACE. For some reason they insist on listening to Sheik Al-Wotzhisname instead. Go figure.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So Muslims who believe that terrorism of Jihad are &#8216;ignorant&#8217;?<br />
Evidently they haven&#8217;t been paying attention to noted Koranic scholars such as Tony Blair, Bono, George Bush, the Archbishop of Canterbury, Brett, that guy who hangs around Starbucks etc. who have comprehensively demonstrated with extensive referencing of the Hadith and seminal Medieval jurists that Islam is the RELIGION OF PEACE. For some reason they insist on listening to Sheik Al-Wotzhisname instead. Go figure.</p>
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		<title>By: Brett</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brett</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 May 2008 13:19:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;&quot;Now, pass the tequila, Sheila...&quot;&lt;/i&gt;

By the sounds of it Palubiski, someone passed you the tequila before breakfast.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>&#8220;Now, pass the tequila, Sheila&#8230;&#8221;</i></p>
<p>By the sounds of it Palubiski, someone passed you the tequila before breakfast.</p>
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		<title>By: George of Currumbin</title>
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		<dc:creator>George of Currumbin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 May 2008 13:18:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I doubt that Spencer or Hugh Fitzgerald would have ever limited jihad to its extreme violent form -ie acts of terror aimed at infidels or apostates.
Such acts are merely the tips of the iceberg-easily identifiable they are to the general public. They explain that its most potent form is indeed the stealth Jihad, the steady,slow coercion and subversion of outside cultures through non violent means.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I doubt that Spencer or Hugh Fitzgerald would have ever limited jihad to its extreme violent form -ie acts of terror aimed at infidels or apostates.<br />
Such acts are merely the tips of the iceberg-easily identifiable they are to the general public. They explain that its most potent form is indeed the stealth Jihad, the steady,slow coercion and subversion of outside cultures through non violent means.</p>
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